Advise needed on a SM

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well i was thinking about getting a GSXR600, but after looking at SM's the other day at DK i really fancy getting one as a second bike to the cbr

What kind of maintanence do they need ? i know they need oil changes every so often, but how often am i looking at ? also how often am i looking at re-builds ?

Am looking at the 604CCM's at the minuite

Cheers

JP

[knockout_bar]

If you want a (virtually) maintanence free SM, get an XR400 and fit SM wheels. They'll last you a lifetime and certainly aren't lacking in power .
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dont want a maintainence free SM - just want to let myself know what im in for. And what kind of cost im looking at

[mr.tattoo]

ccm 604 is a rotax engine, they are poo, also they have a belt like ducatis that need changing, electrics are poor on early ccm's, most "proper" motards need oil and filter every100/300 miles including xr's. some lower maitenance motards are drz400s,ccm 644(suzuki lump), ktm lc4 620's, most trail bikes are designed for a few hours blast off road so if you dont change oil regularly your gonna have a duff motor,, the above models have between 1000 and 5k miles oil changes as oposed to 100 miles. depends what you want it for, if its just a toy get a proper motard, oil and filters all the time but well worth it as the others are well under powered. and most proper motards only take around 1.5 litres of oil so its cheap.. good luck

[spitfire]

[mr.tattoo]

pre 02 suzukis had a paper base gasket which caused greif, after that there fine, ive had 25k miles no hassle of a suzuki lump, xr650l is slow and underpowered, xr650r is awesome, ive had and sold a few recently but oil changes every 500 miles max!! xr 600's are competition bikes, they need regular oil changes.. i used to race the rotax ccm lump when younger, there ok for an hours off road but no good for a road engine(IMO). most big singles need regular oil and filter changes, the more quicker and lairy ones need much more maintenance. ask around on a proper supermoto forum, you'll get some good info on motards...

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[mr.tattoo]

the ccm rotax engine has been the same for many years now, there old engines. your mate must be lucky with the xr or not ride it hard?? any bike will last longer if you look after it, in my honda xr manual honda reckon the xr 600 oil changes are every 500 miles max!! i changed the oil and filter on my xr every 200 miles and had 10k miles trouble free before the rebuild, thats quite good. anyways enough banter..... and no it wasnt the huge white one's, hahahahahah im not that old ..

[G]

I've heard the rotax engines have a bit more low down go while the jap engines have a bit more top end in the CCMs.

Do remember also that motorways are probably out of the question as well.

Incidentally, I /may/ have a 710cc tarted up R30 for sale soon, we shall see .

[goony]

try this site for info on ccm https://www.ccmowners.co.uk/

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Have found a couple of SuperMoto forums and am asking questions on them. There seems to be alot of people saying different things, so im going to ask someone who owns the bikes exactly what the score is when it comes to maintainence.

The Honda XR600 is looking the favorite at the moment

[mr.tattoo]

i have an xr650r, ktm lc4 and a klx at the mo... id go for a suzy lump r30, little bit slower than the rest but handle superb, cheap to maintain, long servicing(4-5k miles)... ive owned pretty much all singles.... xr650r is still my fav... loads of bottom end grunt and wheelies for england