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baldy
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: risks of de-restricting Reply with quote

Ok, so i've been on the 33bhp for 6 months and im bored. I just wondered if i de-restricted it what are the risks apart from getting pulled for doing silly speeds. Do many people get done for this and can/do they check for the restriction if you do get pulled?

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PostPosted: 20:00 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got the docs, there's no way they can check but if you were going too fast they can send it for an inspection, and then you're screwed. But very few people get busted, if they have the certificate.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't bother till the spring, can't imagine there's going to be many days where you'll need the extra till then.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's so much information on this on the forum, I would appreciate folk using the search function as everybody asks it sometime.

There's something about a 'deferred inspection' you can ask for if they want to check your vehicle. But this doesn't work if you are involved in an accident or they have strict permission. Don't quote me on that though.

A lot of people take the risk.

Totally up to you. To me, it's a small risk.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie_biker wrote:
If you've got the docs, there's no way they can check but if you were going too fast they can send it for an inspection, and then you're screwed. But very few people get busted, if they have the certificate.


The docs ie the 'certificate' you get with the restrictors doesn't mean a thing. It is a bit of paper and nothing else. Do not confuse it with a legal document it is not one.

If a Police officer, a VOSA officer or an official of the DoT wants to inspect your bike and has due reason to suspect that you are driving not in accordance with your license you are fĂșcked, they can and maybe will order the vehicle off the road and can even confiscate it on the spot. to which as far as I can find out you will have no way to stop them. Suspicion of crime, vehicle becomes evidence. Maybe one of our friendly PC's can verify this.

I would love to know what you base the 'But very few people get busted, if they have the certificate'.

Don't listen to people giving advice about this on the site, it's your license not theirs, your choice to break the law not theirs and you who has to face the consequences not them.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I derestricted mine after 6months or so, even got pulled over while doing 125MPH or so Embarassed he never asked for any restriction documents and let me go Razz

The choice is yours, If you dont get caught doing silly speeds the likely hood is they'll be happy with the documents.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

took my restrictors out after a week as did my brother and neither of us have ever had anything said about it even been pulled and they didnt mention it even after looking at my lincence

the difference is huge though and uses sooooooo much less petrol
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you're involved in an accident, and it was discovered the bike wasn't restricted, as stipulated by your licence and insurance. Done for no licence nor insurance?
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 29 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Done for no licence nor insurance?


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That's the risk you take.

But a member on this board crashed their 'restricted' zxr and it was never inspected, despite it's lack of 33bhp-ness.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mines never been restricted since ive had it Smile

got the papers tho Wink


just remembered that i got to send of for my pink license, will have to be monday now Mad
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

does it realy use lesspetrol as my SV650 only gets about 110 miles out of a tank and ive been told 140 is more around the mark. cos if this restriction iscausing me to be getting 30 miles less out of the tank for my tenner then i will be very annoyed.
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAL9000 wrote:
does it realy use lesspetrol as my SV650 only gets about 110 miles out of a tank and ive been told 140 is more around the mark. cos if this restriction iscausing me to be getting 30 miles less out of the tank for my tenner then i will be very annoyed.


Get around 150 miles on my Sv650s, 1999 model. And I'm quite keen on acceleration. Smile

110 miles to a tank is ridiculous. I do commute mind you but I hear 140 is the normal.

The only time I let my reserve light go on was when I hit 158 miles. Usually fills up with ÂŁ11-12.
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone gets scared derestricting their bikes.

Once you've done it, it's a very small deal.

One of the reasons I bought my first 600 is because it was restricted, and had the papers etc. Now when I buy a bike, the thought won't even cross my mind. I derestricted my 600 after about 6 months. I won't have another restricted bike.

Although my current bike makes less than 33bhp, so it's not a problem.

Risks are minimal. Mate of mine had a SERIOUS crash on a derestricted bike. Was never mentioned. Wasn't found by insurance inspectors.

No problems.

He also had a producer before that, was never mentioned.

No probelms.

I wholeheartedly think people should keep restrictions in for at least 6 months though. ~110mph is plenty for the first 6months! And getting there in under 20 seconds is also plenty!

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PostPosted: 02:54 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee

If its 70cc its not classed as a moped, if your 16 its to big for you. Now start your own thread.

I have had insurance assessors inspect bikes for restrictor kits. Difference is I was doing a couple of insurance jobs a week.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

funny this is mentioned... had this conversation with jamie192 a few times this week (hope you don't mind me mentioning this Wink ) as i am riding his bike to the garage week after next to get it restricted and get the certificate.

but then of course he's on about taking the restrictor out as the bike won't be 'as much fun'

for all of you who are restricted or are supposed to be Rolling Eyes i personally wouldn't do it because i know it would be the one that got caught.

you just cannot predict the future, you can't say, i won't have an accident, i won't get caught by the police for speeding etc etc

entirely the persons own choice of course and it seems a few have got away with it and good luck to you.

i know i couldn't relax riding knowing i was ilegal and if i had an accident and the police and/or insurer did check the bike i would lose everything, bike, license possible conviction.

how much does your bike mean to you and how much do you value your license Question Question Question

if both mean sod all if you lose them , then go ahead Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bikes never been restricted since I bought it. Had an off a little while ago and it never came up, and luckily my insurance haven't insured me as being on a 33bhp bike so technically I wouldn't of thought there was much they could do, as I'm not insured with them on a restricted bike. Been pulled up a couple of times as well and they've never mentioned it, just looked at my licence and let me go.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i know i couldn't relax riding knowing i was ilegal and if i had an accident and the police and/or insurer did check the bike i would lose everything, bike, license possible conviction.


That's exactly how I feel mate. I'm on my last 10 months or so on 33bhp. Yes it quite hard knowing that just a little fiddle will give so much more power etc, but has anyone ever thought of why this law is there in the first place? Passing your test on a moped/125 then jumping on 60bhp or such is just blind stupid. What if I hit someone on 60bhp, driving at 130mph. I could never live with myself if something happened like that, let alone living with no licence or bike. I recon wait, think of how good it will feel when you've done your time properly and you properly deserve it.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I keep my restrictors in because then I don't feel guilty riding uninsured.

Only gonna take restrictors out for trackdays in future.
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm so glad i didnt have to bother with all this 33bhp crap,

just think if you take them out and are in a serious accident your bike WILL be checked to see if they are fitted and if your laid up in hospital tou wont be able to put them back in before its inspected.

then you will find that your insurance is void and face possible prosecution, just my 2 pence worth Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

not long then really mattg Wink

thankfully i've never been restricted as i did my das at 26 and got my 600 but if i was restricted i still wouldn't risk it, no matter how small the risk...its still there
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:14 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Re: SUZUKI KATANA AY50 HEADGASKET KEEPS BLOWING????? Reply with quote

Off topic...

lee4nat wrote:
hi i have just got a suzuki katana ay50 scooter and it has got a 70cc bore and piston kit on but my head gaskets keep blowing and i dont know why? also i would like to find out the best way and easiest way to deristrict my bike as it wont go over 50MPH???


is your bike fully de-rezzed? have you changed your CDI or de-rezzed that aswell? get a gear up kit aswell, Katanas have shit gearing. And use a good exhaust. Yasuni R or something.

Now back to the main topic plz...
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ha ha, no! Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 30 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My SV isn't restricted, nor has it ever been. I think if I was one of the people who never had to endure the restriction I would be in the 'just wait it out' camp, but I'm not.

I don't for a second believe you need a 33bhp restriction for 2 years. I rode a 125 for a year, almost every day and then graduated to a 70~ bhp bike, as far as I'm concerned that's sensible progression.

But that's besides the point really since all that really matters is the bureaucracy of it all. Yes there is the possibility of things working out for the worse if you're involved in an accident but it doesn't really seem any different to the choice that is riding a bike in the first place. What I mean is, there's a risk far bigger than the piece of paper that is your license when you choose to go for a ride, which we all accept. I say accept, we mostly ignore. I definitely don't think about having a nasty crash every time I get on the bike in the same way the restriction never crosses my mind unless threads like this come up.

If, like Jon, I'd bought a bike restricted from day one I'm pretty much certain I'd have left it restricted as the little sensible voice in my head would have told me to. But I didn't, and I'm so used to the standard power output I can't bring myself to spend a sizeable amount of cash on something which will make riding less enjoyable and more expensive (fuel consumption). So I haven't.
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