n00b Chain & Sprocket Question - Dead sv

[instigator]

If you have no chain on your sprockets and start the bike up in neutral, I assume it's normal for the front sprocket to whirl round?

Also, with no chain on my Sv650, is it normal for the clutch to be very light i.e I'm not used to this kind of clutch mechanism - on the hornet, the clutch cable goes to the rhs, on the sv, it seems to be inside behind the front sprocket casing. So, if I put a new chain on, the clutch will go back to being a bit heavier, yes?

Replacing chain (looked abnormally shagged) for sale tomorrow so appreciate any tips/advice.

[Guest]

[Kickstart]

Hi

As above. Only thing I would add is that if you have had the front sprocket cover off and cheaned things up then you might have cleaned off some rubbish on the clutch push rod that was making it heavier).

Missing clutch push rod would result in the clutch being VERY light.

All the best

Keith
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[instigator]

Try and decipher what that means.

Mashed clutch arm or whatever that means? Bit of metal has sheared right off.

As usual, I jump to conclusions and I hope to god I'm wrong here, but I'm assuming I need an engine to strip down and steal this part from?

Great - was selling it tomorrow too to make way for a ninja I am buying.

to me.

[True Blue]

Why don't you phone suzuki for a price on the part. Can't be that expensive for that?
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[instigator]

[True Blue]

This guy might have the bit your after. Not sure if the 97 model is the same as yours?
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[Phoenix]

Your pictures are toss, can't see anything that looks like it's broken.

Only thing that looks like it's missing but is hard to make out is the clutch pushrod, a long metal rod that comes out of an oil seal infront of the sprocket and sits in a worm gear on the inside of that clutch actuator mechanism bolted to the side. Now I don't see how the pushrod could've fallen out, you'd have to of taken the clutch actuator off and pulled it out (it goes into engine a good 8 inches). If it's sheared off, how did that happen? Did the chain snap?

If that's the case all you need is a new pushrod and maybe an oil seal if it's been dented by the force on the rod. You'll have to fish the remaining rod out of the hole somehow, strong magnet should do it. You might be able to get the new rod from that engine on ebay, or you can get a new one with oil seal from a suzuki parts dealer, Redcar Suzuki will sort you out. The pushrod does have to be aligned with something when it's replaced which may need to be held in place on the other side of the engine by removing clutch cover, but it may just go straight in and work fine.

[True Blue]

[instigator]

Thanks for your input Phoenix and others, very much appreciated.

I will go look for the chain tomorrow if I can get to it, would be interesting to see how it failed (it was 2000 miles old and lubed every 2nd day - I've learnt my lesson from snapped chains before, once on the hornet)

[True Blue]

Where did it happen?
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[instigator]

Just outside langbank, past the mini roundabout. Thing was, jsut before it I said to myself, "This time I'll be smooth with the acceleration" as the roads were 'caked' with diesel at that moment in time.

So pushed it a couple of hundred meters up to the last slip road in langbank and hired an arnold clark van and picked it up.

[True Blue]

When was this? Shame I never knew, I have a LWB hightop Transit at the moment. I could have picked it up for you.
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[Guest]

[instigator]

Very helpful Guest, thank you !!! Just what I was after as weel, an exploded diagram.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Likely to be cheap from Suzuki and easy to fit.

To be honest, surprised the clutch actuating arm, etc, was not just bolted to the sprocket cover.

All the best

Keith
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[BanditsHigh]

Sorry for late reply ...

Anyhoo ... if the chain snapped then what you've probably done (as I've done before) is chop the pushrod up into bits!!!!

Either buy a new one from Suzuki (Robinsons Foundry is good) or check the diameter of the rod and then go and buy a bit'o'steel from B&Q, cut it to length (make it too long and then start trimming it) and you're away.

I did mine using an old screwdriver as the donor pushrod ... and it's Mr Le Bodgee to you

All the best ... Barry

P.S. Available tomorrow to lend a hand/fix it, once I've fitted the new oil cooler (fifth one in two months!!!) ... dead easy to do, it'll just take a wee while to get it to the right length.

[Guest]

[instigator]

£6.07 for the spare part, will update thread to let everyone know once it's fixed.

Cheers for everyone's assistance.