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I think there has been some grasping at straws with the facts in that article.
For a start, Gulf aren't long term sponsors of Porsches, they just had an iconic livery at Le Mans for a few years and people remember it.
The article was also written by an italian website, hardly a basis for factual reporting...  
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Long term simply means a long time, and that's the truth is it not? Not too important either way, frankly. Also I wouldn't have posted half of that if it was just based on heresay from an Italian website - most of what I mentioned has come first hand from the MotoGP paddock. It is a rumour, but a substantiated one.
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No Porsche worth it's salt would be without a flat 6. Except a VW beetle.
Small luxury car manufacturers bankrolled by larger companies (Aston and ford, Bentley,Porsche,Lamborghini and VW, Rolls Royce and BMW) are finding a huge sales increase. The bubble will pop sooner or later, and flamboyancies like Moto GP racing will only catalyse the process.
It's a nice idea, but it's just not right. They shouldn't have built the cayenne, and they shouldn't go bike racing.
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A succesful bike team could spout road bikes  .
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If porsche had a road bike it would be just as rare as an MV or a Benelli.
Would like to see what they come up with.
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| Posted: 14:49 - 12 Mar 2006 Post subject: |
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| Dom wrote: | Long term simply means a long time, and that's the truth is it not? Not too important either way, frankly. Also I wouldn't have posted half of that if it was just based on heresay from an Italian website - most of what I mentioned has come first hand from the MotoGP paddock. It is a rumour, but a substantiated one. |
Which part of 'Gulf are not long term/time sponsors of Porsche' did you not understand? They've sponsored them once, many, many years ago. But the bikes look nice in the pictures, don't you think? (Please get the hint, from a PR standpoint, a Gulf liveried bike with Porsche attached to it, will get media interest, I am being sarcastic here..  )
Like I said, that article is clutching at straws. I'll believe more when I've seen pictures of a Porsche test hack.
It's an Italian website, they'll be looking for (or usually making them up) stories to out do rivals. It happens a lot in internet news sites, especially in MotoGP as the Italians are manic for it.
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Ok, I'll admit I was having a shitty day on Friday and that response didn't make a whole lot of sense.
What I will reiterate, is which part of 'most of what I mentioned has come first hand from the MotoGP paddock' did you not understand?  It's a rumour that, frankly, I can't believe is likely to go beyond just a rumour, personally. But it isn't one started by an Italian website.
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| Posted: 14:57 - 12 Mar 2006 Post subject: |
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If you look at the article again on the MotoGP website that you found the article on.
They have taken the article from Racer GP website.
So, the MotoGP site took it from the italian one.
Like I said, its common in the media Dom, I do it for living...
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| Posted: 15:08 - 12 Mar 2006 Post subject: |
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I don't doubt Porsche have an interest in MotoGP, I think quite a few car manufacturers have eyes on it from afar. It's the best race series in the world!
But coming from my point of view from sportscars, I can't see them getting involved (I could be very wrong, its not uncommon! ) But they've just committed to a Le Mans Prototype and still have customers for other things and I'm not sure a MotoGP attack would be viable.
However, now you've got me thinking, if BMW are going to have a go, then it would make marketing sense (and PR sense) to at least have a story about interest or intentions, especially within the German media...  
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I'm sceptical too mate, but there's obviously some element of truth in it. Give it a few weeks and they'll probably either say yes they did build a prototype GP bike but that's as far as it's going or it'll turn out to be a rumour blown out of proportion. I can't imagine a Porsche lining up on the grid even in two years time, although stranger things have happened. Given that those 'in the know' are talking about it atm does give the thing some credibility (to the point I considered it newsworthy), but it definitely seems far-fetched.
We shall see.
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| Adam_P wrote: | Which part of 'Gulf are not long term/time sponsors of Porsche' did you not understand? They've sponsored them once, many, many years ago. |
https://www.arrakis.es/~luis.delapresa/img392.gif
Gulf Porsche in 2001 - link
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| Quote: | It was in 1967 that Gulf Oil emerged on the international motor racing scene backing the JW Automotive partnership to race license-built Ford GT40 derivatives. In their first year, the Gulf-Mirages saw considerable success and laid the foundations for the switch to the pure GT40 in 1968. That year the team beat Porsche to the World Championship, Pedro Rodriguez and Lucien Bianchi winning the all-important Le Mans 24 Hours, a victory Jacky Ickx and Jackie Oliver repeated in 1969.
With the Porsche 917 entering the JWA stable, Gulf liveried 917's excelled in the two following years at Le Mans, the Attwood/Muller car finishing second in 1971. During this era the powder blue and orange colours became immortalised by the Steve McQueen movie, "Le Mans".
Gulf's third and last outright victory at Le Mans came in 1975, achieved with the French classic's most successful driver pairing of all time, Jacky Ickx and Derek Bell.
Gulf's involvement in world endurance racing over the decades has seen it linked not only to the sports leading technology but many of the world's top drivers and cars. Johansson Racing's Audi bids to continue Gulf's fine tradition. |
Not *just* the once. I'd rub it in further, but given I blindly accepted it as truth in the first place I don't think I'm in a position to.
(Btw I'm not a sad git who's been looking that up, someone posted it in a forum thread that linked to my article.)
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| Posted: 13:53 - 13 Mar 2006 Post subject: |
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Shame your Gulf "Porsche" is actually an Audi.
As stated a few time's in your link.
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LMAO. I should've known babelfish translations of a genius from a dutch message board were not a good source.
Don't worry, I'll leave my post up as a testament to my stupidity.
I'm not what you might call an expert when it comes to car racing.
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