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spitfire
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 29 Mar 2006    Post subject: Easy Tiger Reply with quote
I heard there is a good shot of the new Triumph Tiger in MCN today, has anyone seen the article? What do they say about it?

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Walloper
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Probably Shite.
I have an ST. Crying or Very sad
I'd go for the unfeasably cumbersome Ubertrailie GS but I'm not that easy to get along with. I was told. Laughing
I do not know who/what/why MCN is either. I do know that we/most, @bcf, spit before saying MCN. Laughing
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spitfire
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Walloper wrote:
Probably Shite.
I have an ST. Crying or Very sad
I'd go for the unfeasably cumbersome Ubertrailie GS but I'm not that easy to get along with. I was told. Laughing
I do not know who/what/why MCN is either. I do know that we/most, @bcf, spit before saying MCN. Laughing


Sorry do you think the Tiger is shite, the review in MCN is shite, or your ST that is shite?

Or all of the above?

Everyone I have spoken to about the ST raves about them!
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Walloper
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Everyone rants about Honda's VFR and the 24000mile Engine out valve check and it's cost.

I will need the same shit done on my ST this year and it costs about £500. Which I never knew at the time of sale.

At least now Honda have reviewed the service spec. and now recommend a compression check at 24000 and if OK you drive on till next service, and recheck. And their service intervals are wider and they're cheaper.

I dont want to have to take the bloody engine out my bike for a valve service.
So 'shite' is the word of preference.

Also: Ah fell off both my STs last year. (On braking at low speeds) I drove/kicked the shit out a Thundercat for 3 years and never even nearly fell off no matter how hard I tried.
The ST is as twitchy as a Priest outside a kids playground. Or I'm just a useless driver.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
The VFR8 VTEC is an engine out valve check at 16,000 and a service avery 4000. On the ST you don't need to drop the engine for the valves and the service interval is 6000.

If you crashed the bike, maybe it is your style. Or maybe you were unlucky with the ST/lucky with the 'cat.

The Tiger 1050 seems to be a bit of an odd creation. It's like a tall speed triple with a 675 top fairing bolted on for luck. Not sure how it will go with the touring crowd (who buy a lot of the current Tiger) as it does seem to of lost its practical touches. Still, we shall see when it comes out, whether this summer or at the NEC.
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Walloper
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
McJamweasel wrote:
The VFR8 VTEC is an engine out valve check at 16,000 and a service avery 4000. On the ST you don't need to drop the engine for the valves and the service interval is 6000.


Fair enuf.

But it's still 500 Sqiddley Diddleys whether Diced or Mashed.
It's not a thing I'd be happy to pay for. That's main dealer price. And for 'warranty cover' that's what you'd have to pay.

And why the blazes does it need it?
Is that not a backwards step in technology?
Electronic fuel injection.
Electronic ignition.
Saves maintenance more reliable.
But you need to strip the engine to set valve clearance?
I won't buy another just coz of that. Crying or Very sad
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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Walloper wrote:
But you need to strip the engine to set valve clearance?
I won't buy another just coz of that. Crying or Very sad


Strip the engine? You mean whip off the cam cover? Surely thats not too much to expect.

As for the £500 - that should cover everything that needs doing, not just the valves. I.e. strip the front for fork oil refresh and re-grease head bearing, grease shock linkage, oil & filter change, plugs, coolant flush, brake fluid change, check and update tune, air filter etc.
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spitfire
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 30 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Walloper wrote:
McJamweasel wrote:
The VFR8 VTEC is an engine out valve check at 16,000 and a service avery 4000. On the ST you don't need to drop the engine for the valves and the service interval is 6000.


Fair enuf.

But it's still 500 Sqiddley Diddleys whether Diced or Mashed.
It's not a thing I'd be happy to pay for. That's main dealer price. And for 'warranty cover' that's what you'd have to pay.

And why the blazes does it need it?
Is that not a backwards step in technology?
Electronic fuel injection.
Electronic ignition.
Saves maintenance more reliable.
But you need to strip the engine to set valve clearance?
I won't buy another just coz of that. Crying or Very sad


Count your blessings you dont have an Aprilia or Ducati, they need the clearances checked every 100 miles ! Well maybe not 100 miles but it's very poor.

I think just about every modern bike needs their valve clearances checked. It's to do with the fact that high reving engines cannot have screw adjust valves and looser tolerances, therefore buckets and shims are needed.

If the bike is under warranty then you will need to get them done, when out of warranty either do them yourself, or use a smaller garage. I got a full service and clearance check for £200 ish on my TT600.

Or of course buy a 2 stroke Wink
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