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I believe in prometheism (sp?).
I think hitler had the right idea, just executed (boom boom) the wrong way.
Im sick to the back teeth of the nanny state, we all do stuff because we can get away with it.
Take away the slack, and we'd tow the line.
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The simple reason I dont vote is because THEY ARE ALL A BUNCH OF SCUM SUCKING RETARDED LIARS.
When will people realise they stand for election to better thier OWN position in the community or line their own pockets.
All humans ,wether black, green. muslim, need to realise this. and start waking up to stop following or supportring these "false prophets"
They really dont give a flying fuck about the bullshit that flows from their meeley mouths  .
The only thing that makes any sence is the words of John Lennon.
IMAGINE lsten and learn .
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A few days ago I spied my mate reading The Sun (I know,  ) and they have printed what the England team would look like if the BNP had their way. They made the BNP out to be neo nazi, like Beckham can't play because he's a quarter Jewish, and Rooney because he has Irish parents. And all the black players were listed as BANNED too. I just wonder if this has actually been formally said by the BNP or the tabloids are just making fiction appear to be fact and feeding it to the gullable 'voting public'. I don't think what they did should be allowed if indeed they made it all up, it's basically slander isn't it?
Anyway I don't think the BNP is racist, they have alot of sensible values and I think I would vote for them, and I don't care if I get called a racist. I think there is a small minority that are racist within the party and this unfortunately tarnishes the reputation and respectability of the party as a whole. Like I said, it's a shame because they have some good plans that I don't think will ever have the chance to be implimented.
The country is in so much of a state I don't think that any Government party could sort it out now anyway. |
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in my opinion, i think they have some ideas that i would agree with, and some i wouldnt necessarily, but i do think they are living in cloud cuckoo land for the most part, and that everything they wanted to introduce would make things a hell of a lot worse before they got better
unfortunately the bnp website was the last place i looked for info on them, so i was kinda tainted with the made up shit and third party opinions on them before i read it from the horses mouth, makes it all much harder to take seriously
seems a lot you read about the BNP is through a third party that is undoubtedly gonna add their own opinions
ultimately, as i understand it, our system of election to power, doesnt allow for small parties like this to ever get into a position of power, there is never a great enough density of following in one place, if say a milllion people voted for them, which lets face it, is bloody optimistic, then they would be so far spread, that they would be lucky to even get a single seat
our current system doesnt link the number of seats won to the share of the national vote, which in my opinion if you think about it, is a ridiculous state of affairs
not that i agree with the way our voting is organised, but it seems to me that without a major shakeup of our system of election to move it more towards proportional representation (which i believe is somewhere in the pipeline, but is vastly uncertain) then we are going to be stuck with the big three for a long time, two of which will be closely in the running to each other at any one time
there are lots of arguments for and against changing everything round, and lots of people disagree with parties for this and that reason, its said that if we changed the way we voted, then smaller parties considered by some to be 'extreme' might be able to get into power with enough votes across the UK
but isnt this supposed to be a democracy in the first place?
im relatively new to all this, to be honest i only started reading in depth about it the other night, but the above is what ive been able to grasp of a complicated subject, and i've drawn what opinion i can on that
taken from the BNP website, concisely what they stand for. so, everyone can read it exactly from the source and make up their own minds
| Quote: | IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!
On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the 'positive discrimination' schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of 'asylum seekers', all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.
EUROPE - back to British independence!
We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain's family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the 'rights' of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.
ECONOMY - British workers first!
Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour's statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes.
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
We are against the 'trendy' teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain's farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation's need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain's once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
Increased investment is needed in Britain's public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.
ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner, greener future!
Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. "The polluter pays to clean up the mess" must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
The conditions in which many of Britain's old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.
NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!
Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain's armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain's armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling 'peace-keeping' missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!
Britain's foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations' internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the 'international community', or any other country.
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct 'élite' which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level. Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it. |
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| WildGoose wrote: | in my opinion, i think they have some ideas that i would agree with, and some i wouldnt necessarily, but i do think they are living in cloud cuckoo land for the most part, and that everything they wanted to introduce would make things a hell of a lot worse before they got better
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I found that highly interesting, and worryingly i suppose, agreed with everylast word of it.
I dont consider myself a racist, in the true terms at least, but they seem the only party with the stones to actually deal with the contentious issues.
Admittedly its a slight lib dem issue, where they can promise everything in their manifesto as they will never get in.
But still. very interesting.
I cant rate anymore goose, but if i could id rate that 
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snip most of those are so so policies , (the devil is in the detail though) and most of them are probably impossible or have far far reaching consequences.
its like foreign aid ,
from a flat point of view it looks like we give them money and we get sod all back, but really we put lots of strings on them lots and LOTS of strings , like extortionate interest rates or you have to buy this and that from us,
A couple years back a nign bankrupt african country bought a radar system from us , it cost them millions , they had no use for it at all but they had to recipricate.
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