No more yongsters on bikes

[Biker101]

[Wave2k]

if Bike rules means you cant ride over a 125 till you are 19 at least.
you shouldnt be able to drive a car till your 18/19.
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[Vin]

[Sadie]

And of course, this subject is all new to you all and no-one has mentioned it previously, or warned you it was going to happen, or asked you to write a letter ...

FFS!
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[carvell]

I think people are missing the main point.

A Nova wrapped around a tree is much better than you wrapped around a tree.

Cars are safer than bikes - that's why there are different rules. You can't class them as the same thing and claim that it's not fair.
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[markandmindy]

It makes a complete arse of the Governments transport policy whereby they're trying to encourage more people onto bikes as it cuts down on congestion and pollution. what are these w#####s in Brussells doing ffs???

[ram_doom]

[G]

Because it would be unnecessary legislation?

Because those that can afford it don't seem to mash up their cars nearly as much as the average young biker does?

Because it's not enough for 'the public' (read pop press) to be worried?

[ram_doom]

[HermanTheShee...]

My point was that they would have the choice. Ok not many 17 year olds can afford a big car but for those that can, there's nothing stopping them.

We are supposed to live in a free country, we should have the freedom to decide if we want to ride a bigger bike. The government can provide facts and information but it should be the individuals choice wether or not they get on a bike.
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[Vin]

Can I just say. I find it strange that faced with arse legislation against new bikers some people here, instead of putting their energy into fighting it, immediately propose further arse legislation against another set of road users. Very odd!

[damnas]

[mattfuzzy]

[Zanith]

Hi, i'm new to the site and biking in general (passed my test last Tuesday).

I was wondering, because i'm only 18 do i have to take another test when i'm 20 like that direct access one to bypass that 33bhp law <-- think that's right or will i have to now wait until i'm 24 before i can legally have a bike non restricted?

Cheers for any feedback and i hope that made sense .

[Sephiroth]

If you take your test now when you're 18, when you're 20 (and after it's been two years) your license will autmatically be de-restricted to 33bhp>

Hope that helps.

[ts50x0]

i dont think you can blame people for getting pissed off with the fact that all of these laws are applied to bikes, it deos seem pretty one sided. And all these shit laws seem to come from europe, not good.

[Zanith]

[paulthewitt]

[kawakid]

[Walloper]

[xlizx]

In some ways, it could be a good thing. I see loads of dick heads on mopeds and bikes who don't wear proper leathers, just zipping around in shorts and t shirts. They are all gear and no idea, and give other, more repsonsible bikers a bad name.
I'm not insinuating young people a lunatics, I'm 19 myself, boyfriend rides and I plan to when I'm quids in at 21. However, there's a lot of irresponsible bikers at least where I come from. Either way, even if you are the most responsible biker around, a little bit more road sense on a less powerful machine isn't going to hurt, is it?
My bloke is 21 in December, and is sick of his D6 already, wants a litre bike. When he's sick of that, then what? He's done too much, too fast, and there's gonna be nothing exciting left to thrill him.

That's all the potential FOR I can think of....we all know the against and it completely outweighs it, freedom of sppech and a right to choose what you ride, and without being discriminated against for being young....

I heard about a biker who died instantly, an 80 year old woman was driving ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE DUAL CARRIAGEWAY, collided with him and that was it. Only young, too, from what I heard. How can anyone claim young people cause the most accidents when there's past-it motorists like her on the road? I worked for Saga, and such a high percentage of the claims are 'Oh, I reversed into a parked car...it wasn't my fault though'.
This world makes my blood boil.

[stryker]

Not sure about cars being safer at racing/stupid speeds..... I'd not fancy my chances in a smash at 70mph or more I think your just as fooked whatever you drive/ride.
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[houlsby]

young people can drive fast cars, i have a mate whos had a lexus since he was 18, a merc (square thing p reg) since he was 18 and another mate has a 106 gti (the hot hatch of the 90s) at 18 and pays £1600 for the insurance. restrictions on bikes are just silly, more young people drive fast cars than bikes, more get killed in cars, and its not as if alot of restricted people stick to there 15hp/33hp for long if ever. i for one.

[ahallicks]

I've recently found, by looking around, and chatting to my mate who owns a shop, that a lot more younger people are opting for the scooters rather than the bikes because of the fact that they are easier and it is usually something for them to run around with until they can afford a car.

Apparently sales have slowly pushed towards the automatic scooter rather than the geared 125 machines as it is just a way to get around and since moving here two years ago I've noticed so many more kids on scooters.

I think if this law is passed it will discourage a lot of youngsters even more from riding because the ease these days of taking their car tests. The government appears to have looked at accident rates for bikes, but NOT the cause of the accidents which is more often than not cars themselves and therefore it would technically be safer to put the kids on 125 machines.

Meh, the government make crazy laws all the time.... that's life