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Which 125cc bike do you prefer for a commuter ?
Suzuki 125 Marauder
20%
 20%  [ 5 ]
Suzuki 125 Intruder
16%
 16%  [ 4 ]
Honda 125 Varadero
64%
 64%  [ 16 ]
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TrevMcC
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 23 May 2006    Post subject: Suzuki Intruder Vs Suzuki Marauder Vs Honda Varadero Reply with quote

Hi All ,

I have bought a second hand Honda Varadero 125 as a commuter for getting to work as the wife needs the car and I now work bloody shifts. Not a bad deal 2001 model with 8000 miles and in mint condition for £1700.

I originally wanted a suzuki marauder or intruder 125 as I love the custom look but the varadero is also nice.

I have not collected the Varadero yet from the dealer so can anyone that has an opinion or preference for one of these 3 bikes say so now too help me decide.

Cheers people for the help. I just cant decide.
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PostPosted: 07:01 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you not looked at the Honda Shadow? I wanted one of them for a very long time
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Re: Suzuki Intruder Vs Suzuki Marauder Vs Honda Varadero Reply with quote

They are all bikes with lots of extra weight and lacking in power; sacrifices made for looks, so I wouldn't buy any, especially when you're paying more money for the privilege of a slower bike.

However, of the three I would take the Varadero for the most useful 'bike' rather than pseduo-posing tool.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers so far for all the replies. well appreciated.

i have had a lot of time to think and the three bikes i have listed are the ones i want.

i am being offered a 2002 suzuki intruder 125 for £1500 with 6,000 miles.

the varadero is probably the one i would go for. i have no intension of changing from 125 as it is strictly a commuter. we dont have the money for anything else. cash aint that common these days.

keep the comments coming as i need to collect whichever bike this Friday.

Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Marauder Reply with quote

I have a suzuki marauder and I agree with what G said. They look good but they are a lot slower than most other 125's I think i've had 70mph out of mine going down a hill flat out with the wind behind me. Also there is no torque in fith gear so the wind will slow you down a lot, as will hills.

Plus the fact that cleaning one is a pain in the arse(All that chrome needs to be kept shiny)

I would go for the Varedero mate. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Re: Marauder Reply with quote

woojay wrote:
I have a suzuki marauder and I agree with what G said. They look good but they are a lot slower than most other 125's I think i've had 70mph out of mine going down a hill flat out with the wind behind me. Also there is no torque in fith gear so the wind will slow you down a lot, as will hills.

Plus the fact that cleaning one is a pain in the arse(All that chrome needs to be kept shiny)

I would go for the Varedero mate. Thumbs Up



Thanks Woojay. This is the info i need. I need stuff from people that own the bikes. the dealers tell ou all the crap you want to hear. Thanks for that one. i have one beast of a hill on the way home so maybe the suzuki aint for me.

Keep em coming people. Razz
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Kawasaki Eliminator 125 which is very similar to the Marauder. I would agree that they do sacrifice performance for looks, however to be honest most cruisers do! Cleaning is a pain due to lots of chrome, but when you finish it looks dam sexy! I would say if you want to get a bigger cruiser afterwards though deffinetly get a Marauder.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a 2005 Varadero which I am well pleased with. Nice solid bike and fair performance (not into high speed stuff yet). There is a serious hill on one of the routes I ride (Berry Hill on the A29) and I have no probs in going up it after dropping down to 4th at half way up.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lumphammer wrote:
I've got a 2005 Varadero which I am well pleased with. Nice solid bike and fair performance (not into high speed stuff yet). There is a serious hill on one of the routes I ride (Berry Hill on the A29) and I have no probs in going up it after dropping down to 4th at half way up.


excellent. again just what i need to hear. I was very dodgy about buying a 5 year old bike but you wanna see this one. perfect condition like new.

my budget was maxed at £1700 and the dealer brought the price down a little to match. good man and i will be back for my next bike.

Lump is your bike new or second hand. Is 8000 mile good for a 5 year old bike ?
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Varadero was new in Sept last year - just passed 1500miles. I'm not realy into the best mileage for bikes as am only just back on 2 wheels. Sure that a few more seasoned members can give a better view on that. Does the one you are looking at have full service history - if so, sounds a fair price.

Can't comment of the other bikes listed - I went for the V cos of the weight & "presence on the road" i.e. looks big. Only down side is that there is not the serious power that I would like for overtakes at around 55 - 60.

Hope this helps
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrevMcC wrote:
i have no intension of changing from 125 as it is strictly a commuter. we dont have the money for anything else. cash aint that common these days.

125s often cost more to buy as there is higher demand from leaners, so if you've got a full licence I would be looking at a bigger bike.

None of the bikes you've mentioned seem like amazing commuters - all sacrifice rideability for looks.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to pick up an 03 Varadero last week with 3700 miles on the clock, full history in excellent condition for £1700. If you're OK going private rather than trade you can probably get a better deal that the one you mentioned.

The Varadero is no speed demon, but it has reliability, road presence and many other things going for it.

I too considered the shiny mini-cruisers and didn't like the idea of all that polishing!

Good luck with your purchase Smile
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for the input G.

This forum has been good to me so far. no crap people say it how it is.

naaa. i think the varadero will hold its value the best of all 3 bikes. no matter what i am only going to have a 125 max.

i aint getting it for speed just t get to work. I have a jetski in the garage for speed.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough, though I'm not convinced by your reasons Smile.

Compared to something like a NSR125, a 250/350 or even 500 may not be faster and may even be slower. But they will be 'easier' to ride for commuting. They will all probably weigh less than the varadero as well Smile.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

satellite wrote:
I managed to pick up an 03 Varadero last week with 3700 miles on the clock, full history in excellent condition for £1700. If you're OK going private rather than trade you can probably get a better deal that the one you mentioned.

The Varadero is no speed demon, but it has reliability, road presence and many other things going for it.

I too considered the shiny mini-cruisers and didn't like the idea of all that polishing!

Good luck with your purchase Smile


I dont trust private sales. I know people can be honest but if you buy from dealer at least then you have someone to go back to that can fix it. I know this dealer i am buying off and he is well known for being a good man to do business with.

Just aint too keen on the 5 year old. that bit is not great.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrevMcC wrote:

I dont trust private sales. I know people can be honest but if you buy from dealer at least then you have someone to go back to that can fix it. I know this dealer i am buying off and he is well known for being a good man to do business with.

Just aint too keen on the 5 year old. that bit is not great.

I have seen a lot of people have a lot more problems with dealers than with private sales. Fair enough if you have one you know is good, but even then all the 'good' ones I've seen usually charge even more over the odds.

5 years old really shouldn't be a problem unless the bike has been seriously mistreated. And it's not like they've updated these bikes, ever.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
TrevMcC wrote:

I dont trust private sales. I know people can be honest but if you buy from dealer at least then you have someone to go back to that can fix it. I know this dealer i am buying off and he is well known for being a good man to do business with.

Just aint too keen on the 5 year old. that bit is not great.

I have seen a lot of people have a lot more problems with dealers than with private sales. Fair enough if you have one you know is good, but even then all the 'good' ones I've seen usually charge even more over the odds.

5 years old really shouldn't be a problem unless the bike has been seriously mistreated. And it's not like they've updated these bikes, ever.



I even know the man that used to own it. he is an old man about 40 years old and took care of the bike like it was his kid. only shame is he traded it up so thats why the dealer now has it.

I realise your probably right about the size of bike but a 125 is all i want/ need. any higher is not an option.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id Prefer a CB250. or VT250F, or even something like an XT250/DR350 for commuting. The best 125's however are the easiest to look after and repair, and in that respect the CG125 would beat the Varardo easily.

TBH if i was looking for a commuter bike, id want something practical, (trailbike?) and im not fussy wether its 2 or 4 stroke, so id look at anything from a DT125 to a XT350, KLR250 to a TDR250, or a CB250 to an RG250. If its cheap and in good condition, with signs of being well looked after, i don't see the make and model being all that important really.

Out of your list though, id certainely rarther have a CB250 than any of those bikes, seeing as they are not as good VFM in my opinion!
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had a lot of great replies today. cheers to everyone.

i dont have a licence so on the l plates. thats why 125cc max Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best looking cruiser around has to be an VL Intruder (Out of all the 125cc)

Rides like a dream, looks ace and handles really well.
Its a great beginers bike and a pleasure to have. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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even know the man that used to own it. he is an old man about 40 years old and took care of the bike like it was his kid. only shame is he traded it up so thats why the dealer now has it.


Hey you cheeky bastard. I'm 40 and I'm not old!

Plus I had a Varadero, was sorry to see it go. Put 13,000 miles on the clock.
It has a big road presence and the V twin gives you plenty of torque.
Being also fat bastard at 15 stone as well as being 'old' I could get just under 80mph from it.

The other bikes you mentioned will make you look like a 'blackwidow'.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the choice of bikes you list you seem to be after looks as much as function, so I'd rethink your "just for commuting" stance Smile. If you really just want to get about on the thing, get a beat up CG125 or similar. They look like nothing special, but will get you from A to B for next to nothing.

I currently do my 50-odd mile daily commute on my CG - it costs me about £10-£15/week in petrol, insurance is dead cheap (even on a CBT) and for me it's proven to be unbreakable: it's been crashed twice and the worst damage sustained was a broken mudguard - the foot pegs make surprisingly good crash bungs Wink. The top speed is nothing amazing, but once warmed up it'll happily sit at around 60-65mph; it gets to 50mph without hassle regardless of conditions.

In short, for sheer practicality, it's nearly unbeatable. Best of all, you'll be able to pick one up for a good few hundred quid less than you mention (even from a dealer).

If I absolutely had to pick from one of the three, I'd probably go for either the marauder or intruder, though. The Varadero just looks like a bike pretending to be much bigger than it actually is, and I couldn't stand that.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would agree with the CG being the most practical. I am sortof going for the varadero as it is bigger and i will be easier seen by the big lorries and buses that are all over the road i will be on.

The intruder is a cool looking bike buy being so low down i think i t would be more dangerous on that road.

dammit the stress of making decisions Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrevMcC wrote:
i would agree with the CG being the most practical. I am sortof going for the varadero as it is bigger and i will be easier seen by the big lorries and buses that are all over the road i will be on.

From experience, if you want to be seen, wear a reflective jacket this makes a massive difference, while the size of bike makes none.

However if you want to go for the Varadero because you like the looks etc, and can afford the money, just do it Smile.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 25 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok people I think decision is made.

i am going for the varadero. i will go collect it tonight and get it over and done with. the dealer doesnt know it yet but he will be giving me a free helmet and good discount of a jacket.

Cheers to everyone for the help with this one. Great response. Very Happy Very Happy
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