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I'd never advocate lying, of course, but:
You could cancel your CBR policy, lump the cancellation charges.
Use last year's schedule as proof of NCD, purchase insurance for both the CBR and the Triumph via two entirely separate providers.
On the Triumph quote, tick that you've only one vehicle, not two.
If the Triumph insurers question that the NCD is from a different vehicle, which they more than likely won't, say that's your old vehicle and you've just bought the new one.
If your CBR insurers question why there's a gap in cover, you had the CBR off the road for repairs.
Two lots of NCD then run on either policy, and all for the price of the cancellation of a crap MCE policy with a massive excess. Not too sad.
Source: Someone very close to me did this very recently with his (or her) new car because men (or women) are devious in this way. |
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Paddy. wrote: | ColinK98 wrote: | the whole you can only apply no claims to a single vehicle is bollocks. |
Why?
Its a discount against a vehicle you are insuring.
I'm currently building 2 sets of NCB and have been for years. Its cheaper in the long run. |
But you can only ever drive/ride one car/bike at a time, i've got over 15 years NCD on my car, but it hasn't been with the same car as i tend to change cars every couple of years, by your reasoning i should lose my NCD every time i buy a new car as i am insuring a different car
Even if i were to own 5 cars, i have still not made a claim in 15 years, so should have 15 years NCD on them all, if i did have to make a claim on any of those cars though, i would lose the NCD on them all, which sounds fair enough as it doesn't matter which car i was driving as i still made a claim
I can understand why insurers would need to differentiate between car NCD and bike NCD though if you were to own a car and bike, as the 2 types of driving/riding are very different, but surely not if you own multiple bikes or multiple cars |
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rpsmith79 wrote: |
But you can only ever drive/ride one car/bike at a time, i've got over 15 years NCD on my car, but it hasn't been with the same car as i tend to change cars every couple of years, by your reasoning i should lose my NCD every time i buy a new car as i am insuring a different car |
You can have more than one car or bike stolen though.
That wasn't his reasoning. It's not the vehicle that's important it's the number of policies. NCD accumulates by number of policies active over the year, not vehicles.
rpsmith79 wrote: | Even if i were to own 5 cars, i have still not made a claim in 15 years, so should have 15 years NCD on them all, if i did have to make a claim on any of those cars though, i would lose the NCD on them all, which sounds fair enough as it doesn't matter which car i was driving as i still made a claim |
I'd rather not have it that way, if it's all the same with you
rpsmith79 wrote: | I can understand why insurers would need to differentiate between car NCD and bike NCD though if you were to own a car and bike, as the 2 types of driving/riding are very different, but surely not if you own multiple bikes or multiple cars |
Simply put, the current NCD adjustment methods aren't great for those that have multiple vehicles for the exact reason that you can only have one lot of NCD on one active policy (unless you're very sneaky, which I wouldn't recommend being, of course). It was designed in a time when one vehicle ownership was commonplace whereas these days multiple car households are probably more common than not.
However, should you move to change it to NCD applying to multiple vehicles owned / insured rather than by policy, then essentially all you do is soften the technical rating strength across the piece - simply, the amount of money in the pot goes down, which means the base rate before discount has to go up to counter it. That would mean that those with one car would be most heavily affected and be subsidising more those with two, in a cost per unit frequency model.
Anyway, it's bad enough having to disclose an accident on all forms of motorised transport and taking the claims loading punch across all policies is enough of a sickener - to lose joint NCD across all of them would be a beasting of the highest order. |
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And that is why you have protected NCD
But yes, i do see your point |
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arry wrote: | I'd never advocate lying, of course, but:
You could cancel your CBR policy, lump the cancellation charges.
Use last year's schedule as proof of NCD, purchase insurance for both the CBR and the Triumph via two entirely separate providers.
On the Triumph quote, tick that you've only one vehicle, not two.
If the Triumph insurers question that the NCD is from a different vehicle, which they more than likely won't, say that's your old vehicle and you've just bought the new one. |
Neat trick. Wondering though - suppose you ended up having one of those massive claims that would cause your insurers to investigate your situation with a fine tooth comb in order to try and wriggle out of paying: if they cottoned on, would that be legit for them to bleat that because they've been 'fraudulently' deprived of 50% of their premium due, they are only obliged to pay out to the tune of 50%? (Or, not pay at all?) ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 262 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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