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Posted: 17:40 - 30 Aug 2017 Post subject: Continuing future for nuclear weapons |
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Interesting, especially in light of NK's latest provocative missile test.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-fears-new-us-bomb-ups-risk-of-nuclear-strike/ar-AAqY8Rk?li=AAnZ9Ug&ocid=mailsignout
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Small nukes are the most dangerous. A 300 ton TNT nuke is much more usable than a 100kt nuke. |
I think that's the gist of what the Russians are saying in that article.
Someone like Trump may be much more inclined to turn to them too?
Also, it perhaps ought to be remembered that the effects of nuclear weapons are not limited to the blast radius. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Always wondered what that was. I drive past Fylingdales fairly regularly and just assumed it was where they kept our Stargate. ____________________ 1977 Honda CG125
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Davy Crocket nukular firework.
https://i.imgur.com/XxMEKt1.png
Light the blue touchpaper and run. Run away, very, very, quickly.
10-20 tons of TNT equivalent, developed in the 1950s for use against... North Korea. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I was aware that nuclear warheads could be fired by artillery (something I picked up from NBC lectures in the RAF), but for those, you'd have to deploy troops on the ground.
Seems very timely for the US to be testing these weapons now, almost certainly not coincidental that news of it should be released at this time. Perhaps the Russians are even in on raising the discussion to a higher profile for NK's attention? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Small nukes are the most dangerous. A 300 ton TNT nuke is much more usable than a 100kt nuke. |
As you know stuff and I'm lazy, how much would 1kt be in kg? Meaning 50kt bomb weighing for instance 1000Kg = 1kt being 20Kg.
It makes perfect sense that the smaller bombs are more reasonable, as the ballistic missiles have limited payload and having a bigger bomb would require a carrier, mostly a big and slow aircraft, putting the operators of such aircraft into a very high risk. Is the industry developing in tearms of miniaturization, smaller and more powerful bombs? ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Howling Terror wrote: | EMP is where it's at...you can let the infrastructure stay and swill the streets clear of dead bodies.
Guidance system that delivers doesn't have to be precise. |
Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home
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chickenstrip wrote: | Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Small nukes are the most dangerous. A 300 ton TNT nuke is much more usable than a 100kt nuke. |
I think that's the gist of what the Russians are saying in that article.
Someone like Trump may be much more inclined to turn to them too?
Also, it perhaps ought to be remembered that the effects of nuclear weapons are not limited to the blast radius. |
Trump doesn't know much about nukes or the military. He would just go along with whatever the military suggest like most of them would unless it sounds evidently crazy.
This modern precision guided mini nuke type idea started under Bush, presumably to go with his prompt global strike missiles, for blowing up chem/bio weapons and underground bunkers. Using them against North Korean chemical weapons stocks would be reasonable if he is about to throw the whole lot at 10 million people in Seoul.
RhynoCZ wrote: | Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Small nukes are the most dangerous. A 300 ton TNT nuke is much more usable than a 100kt nuke. |
As you know stuff and I'm lazy, how much would 1kt be in kg? Meaning 50kt bomb weighing for instance 1000Kg = 1kt being 20Kg.
It makes perfect sense that the smaller bombs are more reasonable, as the ballistic missiles have limited payload and having a bigger bomb would require a carrier, mostly a big and slow aircraft, putting the operators of such aircraft into a very high risk. Is the industry developing in tearms of miniaturization, smaller and more powerful bombs? |
There are two sizes to a nuclear weapons, there's it's actual weight and there is its explosive force which is measured in terms of equivalent explosive power of TNT. So a 100kt nuke has the explosive force as 100,000 tons of TNT, essentially a Nimitz aircraft carrier made of TNT! The actual 100kt warhead such as a W76 only weighs about 100kg.
Explosive force doesn't really correlate well to weight when you look at "real" nukes. 20kt nukes tend to be less advanced fission designs and hence MUCH heavier, like 5000lb or something for a first attempt, but they can be made smaller. A 500kt WE177 thermonuclear bomb, whilst much more explosive, only weighs about 1000lb because it is a two stage fission/fusion design rather than a plain fission design. It also depends on the weight of the packaging like whether it is air dropped or on a missile bus.
In terms of development nukes haven't really moved forward much in terms of tech from 1960 ish. There are only two processes, fusing atoms and splitting atoms. Advancements are mostly in making them a bit lighter with very exotic materials (e.g aerogels), newer and more secure firing electronics, and lasers and simulators for testing nukes without live tests. |
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And the lefties wanted to get rid of Trident? hmmmm
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I don't think we'll be needing it while NK is focussed on the USA. If they get it wrong with the yanks, it'll likely be the last thing they ever do. This is why I can't understand what they're up to, winding them up now, before they have an effective nuclear capability. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
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