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nowhere.elysium The Pork Lord
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Posted: 00:04 - 26 Nov 2015 Post subject: |
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CaNsA wrote: | MaBoughey let me have a bash at this using his account.
I want to like it, but it comes across as a mega time hole and a simplified EVE Online.
But for some reason, I'm still tempted to cough for it. | Different game entirely to EVE, based on what I've seen of EVE - it's really not an fair comparison.
It's like the difference between a 4X game and an FPS - EVE is a lot more abstracted from the immediate flight mechanics, while ED is entirely about the immediate flight mechanics, with a rudimentary shot at trading/smuggling/shuttling thrown in. It is a massive time sink, but I consider it to be entirely worth it. That however is my opinion - I'd recommend it, but don't think of it as comparable to EVE. They're in space, and they involve ships - that's where the similarity ends as far as I see it. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Posted: 00:19 - 26 Nov 2015 Post subject: |
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I still play from time to time. It is indeed a colossal time sink.
I took a little vacation (the entire summer) from the tedium and flew to the galactic core and back in a Diamondback Explorer. It was fun but even that was tedious - enter new system, honk the discovery scanner horn. If anything worthwhile shows up, surface scan it, otherwise keep going.
An hour or two here and there, it was something I could do while texting or browsing the web. People mine and trade while watching Netflix, remember.
If you're curious as to what the whole process looks like (and to see what's there) without subjecting yourself, I made a video of the final few jumps prior to Saggytits A*:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUnt3wkoWg
Note how dense the galaxy map is (Twitch's compression makes it a mess) and also how bright space itself is with that density of stars. The black holes act like a regular star and won't in fact crush you, but getting close to them does result in some cool visual effects.
I came back with only 15 million in exploration data (Elite ranking requires 160 million) but at least I can say I've done it.
The Vulture remains arguably the best ship for shooting things on a reasonable budget. Even with the tweaks to RESes I can have a good time blowing up AI Condas and Clippers solo and finally make a decent profit doing so.
Honestly, if I had the time commit, I'd play EvE. I don't so, I play Elite. The combat is fun, and it's fairly immersive if you're in the right mood.
CQC is surprisingly decent given it was written to appease console tards who apparently need to shoot everything. ____________________ Previous: 2002 Honda CB500 (sold), 2007 Suzuki SV650SK6 (crashed), 2005 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer (sold). Currently bikeless
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Up next: "BREAST Nipple Suction: Vintage Breastfeeding Pump" ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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If anyone is playing the Horizons beta and can't get their SRV's data scanner to do anything, Reddit has a simple fix:
TURN ON FIRING DEPLOYS HARDPOINTS
Twitch vid of arsing about figuring it all out, including planetary approaches:
https://www.twitch.tv/suicideperkies/b/684862930
It seems fun, but they are just expanding the amount of locations where you can do absolutely fuck all for very little profit. The real money remains in either trading or blowing up mindless pirates in RES. ____________________ Previous: 2002 Honda CB500 (sold), 2007 Suzuki SV650SK6 (crashed), 2005 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer (sold). Currently bikeless
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Are you guys still playing? I am kinda back to the game after a break, I was going to buy Elite Dangerous: Horizons (I was quite excited about new 'upgraded' Cobra Mk IV) but the reviews of the game are rather poor and the new Cobra is rubbish too apparently.
So what is your opinion about ED: Horizons? I'm waiting until it's like 80% off
Oh and btw what are your favourite ships?... Cobra is my favourite ship by a mile
I've got a Vulture, yes it's a great combat ship, but flying a Cobra is so much more fun..
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nowhere.elysium The Pork Lord
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mJZ wrote: | Are you guys still playing? I am kinda back to the game after a break, I was going to buy Elite Dangerous: Horizons (I was quite excited about new 'upgraded' Cobra Mk IV) but the reviews of the game are rather poor and the new Cobra is rubbish too apparently.
So what is your opinion about ED: Horizons? I'm waiting until it's like 80% off
Oh and btw what are your favourite ships?... Cobra is my favourite ship by a mile
I've got a Vulture, yes it's a great combat ship, but flying a Cobra is so much more fun.. |
I'm still playing, as is lihp and Blackwolf will be joining us shortly. I've got Horizons too, but I'm the only one of the three of us who does. I like it, but I'm one of those weird unwashed explorer types, so it appeals to me.
As for my preferred ship, it depends entirely on what I'm doing with it: I'm liking the Viper mk 4 a lot at the moment - it's great for HazRes hunting. Load it up with a bi-weave shield generator, fixed burst lasers and gimballed multi-cannons and lay waste to 95% of the ships that you'll come across.
For exploring, the Diamondback Explorer is awesome: fairly robust, and with the best heat management in the game so far - you can actually jump to the next system from within the boundaries of a star, all under ~70% temperature capacity.
The Cobra mk4 isn't rubbish, it's just not what people were expecting: everyone thought that they'd be getting a combat trader with extra shiny bits, when in reality they got a ship that has to be geared more towards either combat or trading - it's not the multipurpose ship that the mk3 was by any measure, but it does do specific duties well. It's a surprisingly good trader, and is armed/armoured enough to give as good as it gets when interdicted. Bit slow and lardy compared to the mk3, though.
I'm currently grinding my way towards a Python, having previously blown all my money buying as many imperial ships as possible in the wake of the 'coronation' event that happened a while back. Only ship that I'm missing from that lot now is the iCutter, and I just look at that and think 'meh' when it's lined up against the corvette. Trying my hand at the whole powerplay thing too, but it feels a bit pointless, given how it's completely separate from the background economic simulation. If they paired those up, we could have some really interesting results in terms of trading, fighting and political balance. Hopefully it'll happen, but I'm not losing sleep over it. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Posted: 10:50 - 29 Feb 2016 Post subject: |
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Takes an inordinately long time to get there, doesn't it?
I'm tempted to do another exploration run to the far edge at some point, but I'm currently focusing on speccing out my Python. I'm currently sat at rank 4 in PP, and wondering if it's really worth the extra grind to get to rank 5 - the jump from 1,500 to 10,000 merits is not a small one. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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nowhere.elysium wrote: | Takes an inordinately long time to get there, doesn't it?
I'm tempted to do another exploration run to the far edge at some point, but I'm currently focusing on speccing out my Python. I'm currently sat at rank 4 in PP, and wondering if it's really worth the extra grind to get to rank 5 - the jump from 1,500 to 10,000 merits is not a small one. |
It took me 5 evenings to get to Sagittarius A*... so yes.. it felt like forever.
It's hard to get Rank 5 for the first time because you need 10k merits to get there.. But once you have it you only need to get about 5500 merits every week to keep it. So not that bad..
I'll probably lose Rank 5, because there is no way I can get back to the bubble + get 5500 points before Thursday 7am. So I'll be Rank 4 and have some more work to do to go back to Rank 5.. but to be honest after over a week of exploration I'll be quite happy to do some shooting for a change.
Have fun with the Python... I had A-rated python for a few hours... I didn't like it so much that I sold it the same day I bought it. It was just not for me, but many people rate it highly. I prefer my Fer-De-Lance, Federal Assault Ship, Vulture. ____________________ Current Bike: Yamaha XSR900 Previous bikes: Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade, Kawasaki ZX-6R Ninja, Aprilia RS125 2-stroke |
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I had the Vulture and the FAS for a short while, but didn't really take to them. Both of them felt quite limited in scope, which is probably indicative of me wanting a more multipurpose ship. I would probably have liked the Vulture more if there was such a thing as a large multicannon, and if it had a functional jump range. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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I've got a few Vultures on the edges of the bubble. I don't travel IN them across the bubble.. I use my Cobras to travel TO them Combat optimized Vulture has an awful jump range. FDL is similar when it comes to jump range.. FAS a bit better in this department. ____________________ Current Bike: Yamaha XSR900 Previous bikes: Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade, Kawasaki ZX-6R Ninja, Aprilia RS125 2-stroke |
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I have a viper
Well, did a lot of bounty hunting, and bought, and kitted out a DBX and currently on my way to the core. ____________________ covent.gardens: lihp is my most favourite member ever |
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Now that 2.1 is out, I'm finding it an even bigger grind than before - now everything you want for those engineer upgrades is spawned by a very unfriendly RNG.
NPCs are now complete bastards (and of course, they all have engineer upgrades already) ____________________ Previous: 2002 Honda CB500 (sold), 2007 Suzuki SV650SK6 (crashed), 2005 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer (sold). Currently bikeless
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I ground my butt off before 2.1 dropped doing the Robigo run, and in doing so, acquired a Python and an Anaconda.
I fitted the Python to be an armed trader/miner. So I toddle along to my local RES to do some mining. The moment my refinery processes a fragment, some twattock NPC, usually Elite ranking, appears, scans, and because I have something in my hold, declares that I am "a fish worth landing", and opens up with everything they've got, much of it enhanced weapons. If I am lucky, I survive, sometimes with barely 10% hull left. I have decent shields and weapons, but being constantly attacked like this while the nearby police ships think it takes their Anaconda and half a dozen Eagles and Vipers to stop one pirate in a Sidewinder, don't come to my aid until it's too late.
Seriously, even if I immediately drop everything I'm doing and swap from my mining lasers to killing lasers the moment I receive the "Ima pirate im scan u up good" message, it's still like having a knife wielding maniac bursting in and jumping on you while you're lying in bed.
It wouldn't be so bad if there were better ways to obtain materials and commodities. You fly around space and scan every ship you see in Supersnooze, hoping for weird scan data you can save. You drop into every Degraded Emissions signal you see hoping for materials and data. You drive around on a planet in your crappy buggy that wants to swap ends every time the wind picks up, scooping up pebbles (and I only scoop up the 'rare' pebbles now) hoping one of them will be the rare materials that the stupid engineer wants. I've also had to waste a slot on my ship installing a wake scanner in the hopes of getting enough Atypical Scan Echoes to let me have another crack at an FSD range increase.
And that's the best part, you painfully gather all this stuff by RNG, and go to the engineer, and then they activate their own RNG and MAYBE you'll get a better version of your tweak. Maybe not! Your materials are still consumed even if they cock it up! Maybe the level 3 FSD range increase is actually worse than the level 2 one where you got lucky with the dice roll?
I'm a Fuel Rat, by the way. That was the only thing that gave playing the game any kind of purpose or satisfaction. Now I am grinding the BS in the hopes of boosting the range of my ship and in doing so, decreasing my response time when someone needs help. ____________________ Previous: 2002 Honda CB500 (sold), 2007 Suzuki SV650SK6 (crashed), 2005 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer (sold). Currently bikeless
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