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Nath wrote: | To all the people labeling Muslim countries backwards, do you not consider that our own nation leaves a lot to be desired? Britain is full of racist, xenophobic, bigoted fucks who will use any example of 'political correctness' to rant on about how blacks/asians/arabs are scum. On this thread alone we have one individual apparently praising the BNP, and kiddies saying stuff like: Soul_Trader wrote: | If you are a muslim, you should shut your hairy mouth, then proceed to eat shit and die. |
Right, I agree with free speech and think the media response of reprinting the cartoon was spot on. Also agree that the Islamic world has a long way to go. But the west is far from perfect - Under the facade of liberal democracy we have racism and brooding hatred, and a general intolerance of independent thought. Not comparable maybe, but still reeks to me of Pot and Kettle. |
I hope you dont mean me "praising" the BNP, i was pointing out both are guilty of the same thing yet one may get off free due to his religion. |
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innominate wrote: | Thing I find most amusing about this.
Other papers have printed cartoons, they did this because everyone kicked off. So if they had not taken such OTT umbrage they would have stopped the very thing they are kicking off about from happening again.
Anyhoo, it was printed in a free Western country where we are allowed to do such things. Its not illegal and other cultures can;t force their values on us, just as much as we can't force our laws on country that run Sharia.
They need to get over it...
If someone does it in their countries that are run by islamic government, then by all means give out whatever punishment is seen fit in that society.
They have no control over us, we have the right to say what we want and what we feel. Its the one thing I would fight for... |
Sums the whole West Vs East issue up really doesnt it.
Sure, if they wanna live in the west, fair play - you tow the line and play it our way. Follow OUR rules, OUR traditions, OUR way of life.
Do NOT try and force your fucking medievil ways of life on us. If you cant follow OUR rules, OUR traditions and OUR way of life... GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY... THERES PLENTY OF OTHER PLACES WHICH ARE SUITABLE FOR YOU.
Its that simple.
The minute some Muslim tells me i cant say something.. i swear to god im gonna slit his/her fucking throat. The whole thing gets so under my skin and REALLY pisses me right off.
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NBO wrote: | getyerkneedown wrote: | [GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY... THERES PLENTY OF OTHER PLACES WHICH ARE SUITABLE FOR YOU.[/b]
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They should do it anyway along with a number of other imposers. |
No. You're wrong.
If they want to move here, work their lives here, pay their taxes and be of use to the country. And they play by our rules, laws, and respect our way of life - freedom of speech etc - they are more than welcome to come here.
At the end of the day, if they do all that, they are of more use to us than the crack heads who claim the dole all day long and beg on street corners.
Im not saying fuck off cos of their religion, or the colour of their skin, im saying, that IF because of their religion, they feel that they should enforce their beleifs over ours, then they can go take a fucking swim across the channel and sod back to from whence they came. |
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FOR GOD'S SAKE LET'S LEARN TO TAKE A JOKE
Even God has a sense of humour - why else did He give Catholic priests penises, Americans passports and make George Best's liver collapse as round-the-clock drinking was introduced?
Why else did He make sure Tony Blair missed the vote on the Religious Hatred Bill, meaning that his shameless attempt to creep around Muslims after the Iraq War was defeated?
Because shameless creeping was all this crass attempt at censorship was about.
It was Blair saying to British Muslims: "Hey, guys, I feel your pain. So how about, if I lock up ' anyone who offends you, will you stop being offended over my slaughter of your Islamic cousins and like me again?"
Had it passed unamended, free speech would be in the hands of organised religious groups, their fanatical spokesmen and lawyers. And every narrow-minded, Mary Whitehouse-style bigot could have filled their boots.
And if that offends any overly-religious readers, you can stick it where the eternal light don't shine. Because many aspects of organised religions offend me.
The Pope encouraging poverty in the developing world by banning contraception and abortion. Jews who censor Gentile jokes about their culture or history yet wet themselves when Jackie Mason or Mel Brooks are cracking the gags.
Hard-line Muslims who issue fatwas on anyone who puts down Allah yet put their own burkha-clad women further down the life-chain than plankton. Evangelist preachers invoking fire and brimstone on weak sinners, before jumping into bed with a $2,000 hooker.
They all offend me and make me want to lampoon them. And why not? Why can't outsiders poke fun at Orangemen when they do it so brilliantly themselves by dressing up like snooker referees and beating drums in the hope of getting bottled by Catholics? If an individual belongs to a sect which believes itself morally superior to others, then they deserve all the stick that comes their way.
Give religious fanatics the right to prosecute ridiculers and it will go the way of football, where supporters hurl abuse at players then whine to police when the abuse is turned back on them.
We've allowed people to become too easily affronted. Look at the self-righteous planks who spend their evenings surfing TV channels to find something to complain about. Well, maybe we need a law which makes it an offence to become easily offended.
The biggest joke of all is that the ones who take most umbrage at a gag are so blind they can't see how ridiculous they look.
Take the flag-burning furore in the Middle East over a series of cartoons in a Danish paper which portrayed Mohammed wearing a turban in the shape of a bomb.
So whipped-up has the anger been that several Islamic countries have decided to ban all imports from Denmark.
Muslims banning bacon. Are they having a laugh or what?
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nick griffin got off.
I dont agree with what he says, but the government would love to lock this guy up to show how "right on " they are. But, this being a democracy and all, he had to go to court and be tried by his peers. Who thought he was innocent
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As far as i'm concerned they aren't doing themselves any favours-piss taking is a fact of life and its only a few cartoons-get a grip!i get the piss taken out of me all the time and as long as i can take the piss back i'm not bothered.It looks like its ok for the fanatics to say that they want to kill me in my own home because i'm an infidel as i'm not muslim but as soon as someone takes the mick they throw their toys out....if they want to come looking for me in my own home they are more than welcome but i'll be ready!*covers himself in bacon fat and loads his shotgun*
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As far as i'm concerned they aren't doing themselves any favours-piss taking is a fact of life and its only a few cartoons-get a grip!i get the piss taken out of me all the time and as long as i can take the piss back i'm not bothered.It looks like its ok for the fanatics to say that they want to kill me in my own home because i'm an infidel as i'm not muslim but as soon as someone takes the mick they throw their toys out....if they want to come looking for me in my own home they are more than welcome but i'll be ready!*covers himself in bacon fat and loads his shotgun*
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It's my country too. I don't like gays. Get out of my country please.
That is not, I would like to point out true, however just as valid as your shouting, I would suggest.
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I know what you are trying to get across G and I agree that we should stop trying to enforce our beliefs on muslim countrys....
But
I also feel that our way of life, our freedom of speech is being threatened by what is in fact a small section of the UK muslim public that happen to have extreme views.
more and more the uk public are moving towards what could be considered racism due to this threat. I include myself here, I do not consider myself a racist but I am also getting more and more annoyed with people coming here and abusing our kindness.
The issue of racism in this case I think is one of identification of an enemy.
In a chess game you may play black, and you identify enemy pieces by them being white.
in a war your comrades share your uniform whilst your enemy may have different traits. the point being that the UK public have nothing to identify the muslim extremist threat by and so general hatred is aimed at all muslims.
as someone has said a lot has to do with humour, if you did not like gays, would all gays want to kill you, no most would at worst pity you or even find you laughable.
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