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Posted: 18:29 - 18 May 2017 Post subject: |
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It will always be about riding them for me. I don't want museum pieces collecting dust. Even if they're rare, I'd choose them on the basis that I think i'd enjoy riding them. But only if I could comfortably afford to keep them in good running order (and I more or less gave up tinkering years ago, so that'd mean paying someone else to service/maintain them....now, where did I put that lottery ticket...). ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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people have said some interesting stuff on this matter and it has made me think .
Maybe I`m pushing it a bit trying to keep three bikes on the road.
Maybe I am deluding myself that I can justify three bikes and I`m never going to give them the riding time/attention they deserve.
See the stupid thing is that someone somewhere will offer me a bike really cheap and I will think of an excuse why I really need to buy it ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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stevo as b4 wrote: |
I'll never ride fast enough again to need a Fireblade or R1, but I like the nostalgia of buying something like a GPZ900R or a big Honda CB1100R as they are still fast enough but you wouldn't push them around on the road or try to go all Marc Marquez on any of them. |
You nearly got me playing the bike collection fantasy game there...phew, just stopped myself in time ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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My bikes are toys. The Trophy gets taken out for a ride on a sunny day with like minded friends on nice biking roads to somewhere where there is a nice pub, a bike shop or a chippy. I doubt if I will ever tour any distance anymore which makes the actual type of bike pretty pointless. I use the car to go anywhere else.
However I am now retired and will not ever work full time again so if I sell the Trophy and don't replace it immediately that money will fritter away and I'll never afford or justify another good bike. Wifie has said as I am not giving up riding I might as well keep it until it is too heavy for me and is my life insurance still valid.
I'd sell the Fazer, it's never used now but I wouldn't get anything for it, a cat b or c with a rattle can finish and Penelope Pitstop transfers doesn't command much on ebay:lol:
I can't ever have no bike. Maybe an Enfield would keep me happy and I'll still have the fazer if I want something fastish.
So I want two bikes and I hardly ride. Stupid. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | I just thought I'd throw this out there, what about the difference between you real riders and people that commute/tour/compete in events or have replaced the 2nd family car with a bike etc.
Should you lot that pile on the miles, go out in all conditions or push bikes in sport/competition to the point where things break often, have more bikes and be justified in doing so?
The people like me who tinker/re-build and hardly ride their bikes or don't have any transport needs for one etc, should we be less able to justify owning several bikes due to lack of use? Personally I think so as I'd never be so much of a cunt to want say 10bikes that'll never get ridden or run. I'd be wreaking them and fucking things up for others with more time/money or need for bikes.
I don't really buy the investment thing, though some bikes have done far better at appreciating than others. If I was a collector of mint desirable two strokes for example, I'd display them but I'd build each one with a dummy engine that had no internals to dry out or degrade, as a show bike does not need to be a runner, and spending say £2-3k on an RD500 engine re-build for a bike that's a museum piece to give visual pleasure is both unnecessary and a waste of good parts a real rider/biker could benefit from. |
I don't think you need to justify owning the bikes that you own to anyone else except yourself (and/or your family). I think the justification just comes down to money and being willing to spend the time on maintenance/repairs/MOT etc.
If you have the money and enjoyed crazy fast sports bikes, but 50 pence every bend, I wouldn't say that person is any less deserving than someone who takes it on a track. It's their money after all.
Except for a select few bikes, the majority are depreciating assets. Even then, when you look at some of these rare classics, some are about the same price as they were new, but without taking inflation into account. Then you've got the running costs over that time, insurance, parts etc.
I would much rather have the same money in a diversified portfolio of funds over the same length of ownership, than have a bike i'd be worried about riding/dropping.
Then again, if I had plenty of money, had a house paid for, and retirement sorted, I could see myself "investing" in an RC30 or RC45. |
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Most people seem to have multiple similar bikes, which seems a little pointless.
I had 3 last year:
Gsxr 1000 k6 - had this on its own. Did a track day and decided I wanted to do more track days.
Gsxr 600 k1 - bought and converted it to track bitch.
Speed triple - after track riding found the gsxr 1000 unrewarding on the road. Wanted something with closer gear ratios and a bit more comfy.
I then sold the track bike due to time and money commitments and then the 1000 as the speed triple suits me more right now.
If money was no object id probably collect pristine examples. ____________________ || Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk |
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I've 3;
Triumph daytona 675: Modern Bike, used for commuting, jollies and the occasional (slow) trackday
Honda z50m: Bit of a museum piece, needs finishing
Norton Dominator 99: Classic, I just haven't had the time to ride it since becoming a father, mainly because of the amount of maintaince she needs! ____________________ "intelligent inattention is preferable to unintelligent tinkering"
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I say I'm working my way down to 2 then I go and put a deposit on a bros Peppers I'm blaming you ____________________ Current: 02 FZS 1000 Some Bike Pics...
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I had 5 bikes at once at my peak (6 if you include the girlfriend's GS500); GPZ750R, AJS 350, CB250RS, CB400/4 in the kitchen and a CM200 rat in boxes. At the time I sold them, only the GPZ, CB and AJS were running, and only the GPZ and AJS were legal.
I think it doesn't matter how many I have, I can only mentally look after 3 at a time ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
Currently : Royal Enfield 350 Meteor
Previously : CB100N > CB250RS > XJ900F > GT550 > GPZ750R/1000RX > AJS M16 > R100RT > Bullet 500 > CB500 > LS650P > Bullet Electra X & YBR125 > Bullet 350 "Superstar" & YBR125 Custom > Royal Enfield Classic 500 Despatch Limited Edition (28 of 200) & CB Two-Fifty Nighthawk > ER5 |
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: | Christ, am I the only bugger on this forum who owns just <cough> one bike ? |
No, I'm now back down to one.
Most I've ever had at a time was three, on two occasions:
Kawasaki GPz750 Turbo
Kawasaki 750 H2C (Denco-tuned nut bike)
Honda CB400N Superdream
And later on:
Kawasaki 750 H2B
Kawasaki Z1
Kawasaki Z650B
I used to be a bit of a Kawasaki nut, in the days of air cooled bikes.
I do have a strange and persistent hankering for a Laverda Montjuic 500, but it ain't gonna happen. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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MarJay wrote: |
They all have one thing in common, they are all bikes reputed for their handling. In my mind that makes them all a little too similar |
That's no bad thing. No point in having a decent engine if the rest of the bike isn't capable enough to let you use it.
Quote: | If I'm not sure what I want I usually end up taking the Street. It's better for commuting and that really. |
I'm still trying to assess the Street Triple in my mind. It's quite a confusing bike in some ways. It does make a very good commuter; tractable, can be used lazily. But I found that its stronger alter-ego was about being a hooligan, and that's how it was most enjoyable.
My weird Montjuic hankering was part of the reason I tried a Street Triple, I think. In my mind, the Striple is the modern equivalent. But having now had the later bike, I think I'd probably be in for disappointment if I could afford the little Laverda. Still want one though ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I've not really heard that many people describe it as a hooligan bike, but if it turns out to be I do understand where you're coming from. Despite the MT-03 getting ripped on here (I probably ruined its reputation ), it only really worked when you rode it aggressively, after a tiring days work when you just wanted a nice calm ride home it was actually awful. |
Oh, I have, and they're right. It does need a nice noisy set of pipes to really make it feel that way though. I mentioned it elsewhere, but when I first got my Striple, I found myself riding it like I often do the Fazer, because it would pull smoothly from low revs in high gear. I wasn't terribly impressed, except that I thought it did make a good everyday bike. It wasn't until I'd got used to the feel a bit and started to give it some beans that I realised I'd been missing its best side. Trouble was, I then couldn't ride it any other way
Quote: | I also never really gelled with it again post stack, which sounds silly seeing as I rode it for 2 years afterwards, but that's part of the reason why I got the stripple (to see if it's me or the bike). |
This happened to me after I stacked my FZ750. There wasn't anything wrong with it after that crash - it only sustained cosmetic damage - and it continued to perform just as well as before. But I just kind of went off it. Strange, because other bikes I've crashed haven't been like that. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: |
Oh, I have, and they're right. It does need a nice noisy set of pipes to really make it feel that way though. I mentioned it elsewhere, but when I first got my Striple, I found myself riding it like I often do the Fazer, because it would pull smoothly from low revs in high gear. I wasn't terribly impressed, except that I thought it did make a good everyday bike. It wasn't until I'd got used to the feel a bit and started to give it some beans that I realised I'd been missing its best side. Trouble was, I then couldn't ride it any other way |
It's not a hooligan bike in the way my old flat barred downgeared XB12R was, that's for sure. It's much smoother, and doesn't quite have the lazy eyed psycho thing going for it.
What the Street Triple is good at is being what you want it to be. Mine does have the Arrow full system (7kg saving) and has been remapped by Tony Scott of T3 racing. It's also had the suspension played with to suit me. You can ride it gently (for example when I follow the GF on her 12bhp 125) and you can pootle over to the shops. If you're feeling aggressive, you can rag it, and it just seems to reply with "Is that all you've got? I can take it!".
You can also go on a mission with it, IE "I'm late for work, and so I'm going to crack on". When you do this, it's really in it's element.
I don't think the standard Striple is as good, certainly not for me. When I rode one I felt like it wouldn't turn and the forks were rock solid. Mine is much more compliant and turns on a dime.
M.C wrote: | I also never really gelled with it again post stack, which sounds silly seeing as I rode it for 2 years afterwards, but that's part of the reason why I got the stripple (to see if it's me or the bike). |
I think this is quite common, I had to sell my 'Blade after I crashed it, and after I broke my wrist on my XB12S I couldn't get into riding properly for a couple of years afterwards. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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It's not a hooligan in the way that my old RG500 was, for instance, which grumbled and complained when below the power band, then tried to rip your arms out of their sockets when you wound it on. I think what I mean is, it brought out the hooligan in me.
I didn't do anything to sort out the suspension, which was harsh (mine was the R version), but I felt it kind of suited it, although it did get thrown about a bit on bumpy roads.
Mine had a PCV fitted (which I thought wasn't necessary on the earlier versions, as I was under the impression there were various map settings available for free from Triumph) and ran smoothly throughout the rev range. But it certainly did respond well to a good neck-wringing!
To keep vaguely on topic ( ), it was also like the Fazer in that it would make a good candidate if you could only have one bike, as long as you're not into lots of long distance tours or need to do a lot of motorway trips. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Are you two inadequate or are the rest of us just trying to cover up our inadequacies?... |
It's my bank account that's inadequate ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 6 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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