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Posted: 21:59 - 04 Oct 2022 Post subject: |
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Of course the minority ideologies are leading. Look at BLM. 13% of the UK is BAME, 40% in London, seems like 60% in adverts
I’m not sure the silent majority are worried about climate change, and they couldn’t openly express that anyway, such is the world we live in. When they do express their views in an election their representatives are too afraid to do the job. |
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Posted: 22:10 - 04 Oct 2022 Post subject: |
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: |
I’m not sure the silent majority are worried about climate change, and they couldn’t openly express that anyway, such is the world we live in. |
Exactly. They are not just silent, but silenced.
The climate change ideology offers huge power now to those who get on board. There are very few significant policy areas that it can't have leverage over, and those that it can't, well, that's where the minority ones come in. Remember, this is all globalist stuff. National politics will take more and more of a back seat.
This doesn't mean that other issues won't become prominent from time to time. In fact, they make nice distractions from the main one, the agenda of which can be carried forwards underneath. But when climate change knocks heads with anything else, you can bet on which will win in the end. What do race or gender matter if the very end of the world is nigh? In fact, you could put that old classic sandwich board on and parade it in some very high profile circles, and no one will laugh at you now. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Islander wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
You're rather fond of the CCP aren't you?
How is building over 100 coal-fired power stations in the last 2 years helping, do tell? |
Not as much of a fan as you. |
You're the one always sticking up for the Chinese. I think the CCP is an obnoxious entity. Is it something to do with your employer and their connections?
Quote: | It's coal use is falling in relative terms and they're trying to achieve zero carbon by 2060. Read into that what you will but there are plenty of sources to choose from. |
What I read into that is that climate change alarmists like yourself need to work more on your panicking ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 22:52 - 04 Oct 2022 Post subject: |
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Use of that sort of term may just get you called a climate change denier. |
Coming from you, I'd wear it as a badge of pride
Quote: | It's not an ideology, it's a scientifically measured and tested fact. The global mean surface temperature is increasing along with human produced CO2 in the atmosphere. |
It's a hypothesis built up into an ideology.
Quote: | Try to avoid the dogma based glib political repartee - it really doesn't do you any credit. |
Oh noes, I might lose credit with you?!
What is your employer's connection with the CCP...or the Chinese, if you want to split hairs? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I can't remember a single occasion where I've stuck up for the CCP. I'll present a fact on occasion but that's not an indicator of any liking for them. Feel free to show me where I've professed support though. |
Do you think of them as a force for good in the world, or ill?
Quote: | I'm not an alarmist, again I present facts. |
You present exactly what all the other ideologues preach. Anyone who disagrees or claims conflicting evidence you denounce, personally. In fact, you do that with all political and politicised issues. Islamists and other religious zealots do exactly the same. This is why your credibility is so low.
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@Islander: No, I'm not an ideologue. I take in all you are saying (although I can go to better sources), but I also look at other opinions and evidence (when it isn't suppressed - and why would anyone do that? Scientific ideas need rigorous challenging; even scientists can, and do, get it wrong), not just what the mainstream feeds me. I see some compelling arguments from respected people on both sides. I basically accept that man-made climate change is possible, perhaps even happening. But we need to think VERY carefully before we go for extreme measures, especially where those measures can cause as much death and misery as any actual climactic events, which with globally enacted policies, they could well do.
It is not just the carbon argument that is affecting these policies either. Others are screaming about methane produced by livestock (predominantly cattle), and what is the response? In Holland for e.g., it's enforced cuts of livestock herds of 30% or more, banning of essential fertilisers (at a time when fertiliser availability is already drastically reduced by the Ukraine/Russia mess). And Holland is one of the world's major exporters of food to the world. It just seems to me that we get knee-jerk policies where the consequences have not been thought through. And so we get major civil unrest as is happening in Holland and many other places. The climate change lot aren't carrying people with them and so ultimately they will either have to crack down, which will produce its own disasters, or they will simply lose their argument, right or wrong. These are serious things to think about.
I will challenge any position where one side is being shut down rather than debated, especially where the consequences of policies adopted can be so great. Again, we NEED rigorous debate on these things, not childish cries of this-or-that denier. To people who do that I say, grow up ffs. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Saw an interesting video on solar energy and Africa. The Sahara Desert would be a great place for solar farms but the problem is more running interconnects to places that'd buy the energy, i.e. Europe.
Then there's thin-film solar:
https://youtu.be/tQmFVcD-Mbo
tl;dr Stacking thin-films can lead to higher efficiency per square metre compared to traditional glass panels.
Still a long way to rinse all there is out of solar energy; something to look forward to ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 222 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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