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How is it free when someone in the house is paying for it? 
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| M.C wrote: | cos I live at home |
Everyone lives at home. 
| M.C wrote: | I told Mpd he had no idea about my circumstances, and you don't, you don't have an f'ing clue |
Well, I do now, sort of.
| M.C wrote: | My mums a pensioner, obviously I have the income. It's a stupid policy to discourage people from working by charging them well over what most people would consider reasonable. That's actually the opinion of everyone I know when they ask how much I pay (to live at home). |
I still honestly have no idea what your cause for complaint is. If the property is sub-standard and you're paying private market rate, why aren't you moving to a nicer one in the private sector?
Can you run the numbers by us? That might help to explain it.
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| mpd72 wrote: | If there's a working adult living there, why should the state pay all the rent? |
They shouldn't, but the working person shouldn't pay (most of it) either. A kid getting there first job earning 16k (which's what I started on with my job), would have ~30% of their income going to the council/government, affordable's meant to be below 35% so I guess they're scraping through with that one 
Not only are you discouraging people from working, you're ignoring why most people live at home (to save money), for a deposit to buy/rent a place. The policy only makes sense when you have more children living at home/working, for a single child it makes no sense.
| Rogerborg wrote: | Well, I do now, sort of. |
We've discussed this a few times, I've always said I paid a lot to live at home (in a council house).
| dodsi wrote: | Interesting you have chosen to criticise me for various choices I have made in my life. |
What? I said you spend a fortune leasing a Skoda, which you do. Why does this seemingly torment you so much? |
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Tory manifesto is out: https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto
It's priceless!
No really it's priceless.
All this talk of Labour needing to cost all their pledges. Then what do the Tories do? Fire out an 88 page novel that nobody will read, and it's priceless.
Someone else gave it a good read than had a rant. Here it is:
| Quote: | The most extraordinary thing about the Tory manifesto is that you can read pages and pages of it and not come upon a monetary value put on anything. Figures are extremely few and far between indeed, and where there is a cost placed on something there is normally no indication given at all of where the money is coming from.
You have to get to page 14 before you come across a single figure at all. Then it tells you that by 2020 they will increase the personal tax allowance to £12,500 and increase the higher rate threshold to £50,000. But it places no value at all on the next cost of this tax cut, or how it can be afforded.
You have to go through six more pages of waffle before you get the next figure at page 20, a National Productivity Fund of £23 billion. Again, no indication is given of the source of this funding, perhaps because it is very much an old recycled announcement.
Perhaps the most remarkable instance of lack of clarity on funding is the promise of £8 billion extra for the NHS. Again no indication at all is given of where this money is coming from. The only indication of an extra funding source is a levy of £450 per head on overseas students for use of the NHS. That will raise only about £50 million and is just a chance for an attack on a group May particularly hates – and a bone to the racists.
It is impossible not to contrast the complete absence of prices on 95% of the proposals in the manifesto, and the complete lack of explanation of the source of funds on almost all the few items that are costed, with the huge media onslaught on the fiscal detail of the opposition parties’ manifestoes. A completely different standard is being applied to the Tories.
The BBC as usual wheeled out the Institute of Fiscal Studies, the “independent” body representing extreme neo-liberalism. The IFS has been lyrical for hours these last few days giving instant judgements on why the Labour manifesto had holes in it, repeating continually the corporate propaganda that if you increase taxes on the super-rich, they will pay less. But when invited by the BBC to comment on the finances of the Tory manifesto, the IFS merely replied that they would be presenting an analysis of all the manifestoes next Tuesday.
The Tory manifesto is literally priceless – it puts no price on anything. But we all know it will carry a disastrous cost for our public services and for the most vulnerable in our society, |
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You could put Tony Bliar's grinning skull at the top of that and nobody would bat an eyelid.
| M.C wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: | If there's a working adult living there, why should the state pay all the rent? |
They shouldn't, but the working person shouldn't pay (most of it) either. |
Why on earth not? We seem to have a complete disjoint in expectations about who should pay for things.
| M.C wrote: | A kid getting there first job earning 16k (which's what I started on with my job), would have ~30% of their income |
£14,161 take home = £1,180 a month = £354 a month in rent?
Did you say you lived in London?
| M.C wrote: | going to the council/government |
You might think of it as £354 a month that a taxpayer isn't being rinsed in order to pay for the roof over your head in addition to what they already have to pay for the one over theirs. I know I do.
We're talking abstracts here. If the facts are persuasive, can you just tell us how much you're paying, and in which area?
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You cannot however remove an individual from an economy.
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Just so I'm clear on your perspective, 16yr old kid doesn't want to be a doley like mam and dad, goes gets a job but then the (Tory) government decides they should pay most of the rent when they're trying to do the right thing? Or in my situation, should I tell my elderly mother to go get a job and stop being a sponging pensioner? |
So your mother had you when she was around 50 did she?
| M.C wrote: | See my above points. They're punishing people who want to work, which going back to the point which started all of this, shows the Tories aren't about working people. Attacking and vilifying the poor sure. |
Bollocks, you're a working adult playing hard done by because you're having to pay way, way under market rent, rather than living for free off my tax money.
If you didn't still live with mummy, rent for your own place would be a damn site more than you're paying now. Be grateful that your household's rent is being subsidised by the state, even after telfty % increases, bringing the figure almost to way less than market value.
This demonstrates the issue with kids who've grown up under long term benefits recipients - they have a false sens of expecting everyone else to subsidise their existence, even as a working adult.
A mate of mine became the legal guardian of his sister at 16 and took the family home on, with his low income, after their mother just got up one morning and fecked off. Within a couple of years he mortgaged it himself.
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