Murder of disabled man.

[kawakid]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7364261.stm

Makes me sick, the mental age of 18months and someone decided
to kill him.

Poor bastard.

They should be shot.

Edit, just seen this.

Looks like she did the right thing.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1082807.ece

Not so long ago in this country, the people who did this, would face the consequences, the criminal fraternity would not have stood for this.
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[killa]

Um, i can't see the link at work for some reason.
But could you explain whats going on?

I was interested to find out as the women had been hung, the kid went missing and then found dead. They said they needed dental records to confirm it was this lad because of the state of the body.

Im confused, i don't know what went on.
It's a sad story though, poor lad.
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[Dragonfly]

Looks like the mother put him in the shed,dont think she murdered him though. I dont know its a strange story.
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[GhostRider]

Indeed this story gets stranger by the day, they arrested the stepfather and another youth apparently and have applied for an extension with which to question them.

I read yesterday about them needing dental records, and though "why? why would his face be not recognisable?" then I heard they;d dug him up out the back garden and therefore figured he must of been there a while in order for him to be in a state of decomposition.

I think the mother probably had something to do with it, an maybe hung herself in guilt, she was probably in a compromised state of mind with the pressure of looking after her son 24/7, not that it makes it right, but it goes some way to understanding her psyche somewhat.

An extremely sad story non-the-less.

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[Keir]

wasnt he found in a suitcase in the shed?

My thought was that the parents killed him in some twisted mercy killing kind of way but then the mother couldnt take the guilt and strung herself up.

Personally i cant comment on it, i have no kids so to image having a serverly disabled child and all the stuff that goes with it is beyond my comprehsion.
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Ah I forgot about the suitcase bit. Dosnt look to innocent now I am sure more will unfold ( no pun intended).
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[ken]

I'm sure they will get to the truth soon enough... and then it will be case closed in all seriousness it is very sad. as stated we carn't imagine what its like having to look after the lad 24/7 just like looking after a baby in nappies for ever. stated that in link above that he sat in his room and watched kids play football on the green. must be heartbreaking for him and the parents.

maybe it might have been better for the mother to have put him in a home and visit daily?

on a side note to it, is it possible the lad could of communicated to them that he didn't want to live that way anymore. as said mercy killing...
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[ken]

I'm sure that is the case df, and I'm sure their is other factors to bear in mind, like the location of the home... available transport to get to see them, and of course the out of site out of mind factor aswell...

my step mother is in a home, she went in their after we lost my dad. as she needed looking after... after a stroke, and their is only me out of the rest of my family 3 sisters and 1 brother that can be bothered to go and see her. so I do fully understand the once out of the way factor.
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[ken]

The story has unfolded, very very sad end....

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1093662.ece
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[Drew]

Quite sad outcome really.

[colin1]

its his real dad that i feel sorry for

I once met a bloke who's ex murdered his kid on his birthday to get back at him for leaving her. He never got over it.
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[hellkat]

What a sad little story.
How people's lives can be so terribly terribly distraught, and yet so well disguised.


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[Visitor Q]

Is it just me, or was a mercy killing pretty needed in this case. If at 22 the best eulogy they could write in the paper was;

[colin1]

its not a mercy killing just because he didnt amount to much

its a selfish killing possibly because the mother wanted a life of her own

there are always other options though

it could be it wasnt planned and it just happened as result of an ongoing situation, someone lost their temper and snapped or something

toddler tantrums in a grown mans body must be quite hard to deal with

There is a bit of a tendency in the NHS to allow old relatives to be allowed to die for the convenvience of the family and the NHS, even if the old person isnt actually suffering. I dont agree with that either even if it is a drain on the NHS.
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[Visitor Q]

Colin, i take it you've never known anyone with serious mental or physical disabilities? Or a known a carer of said people.

It is utter hell.

To have the audacity to call the woman selfish after 22 years of looking after what can only amount to a vegetable... that takes a special amount of inanity.

Bravo.
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[colin1]

no,

u said mercy killing, mercy killing is if the one u are killing is suffering

even if someone is suffering looking after someone else, them killing the person they are looking after is still selfish even if they have selflessly looked after their victim for years

I have lived with someone looking after a sick relative for about a year and in the last few months they need constant care, so yes I do know what a strain it can be on the family.

That doesnt make it ok to kill, even if its understandable. Sometimes in these situations people make decisions they regret later because of the strain they are under.

In this case, I think its just as likely that the step dad did it as the mom, but who knows.

Once again someone on bcf can't deal with someone having a different view on a topic.

Im not calling her selfish for looking after her son for 22 years, but if she killed him that would have been selfish.
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[Visitor Q]

Colin, i'm well aware of the definition of Euthanasia.

You ever seen one flew over the cuckoos nest?

We can argue semantics as long as you like, being 22 and 'fascinated by food' is a horrific state to be in.

I would still consider it a selfless act, that is no state for ANYTHING to live in.

I have no doubt this poor fucker was well aware the misery he was causing, maybe not explicitly, but he would be aware to some level.

Then again I'm a believer of removing all burdens on the state. Call me what you will.

But the fact she hung in there for 22 years, deprived of all the basic fundamental joys of parenthood (cognitive progression, life achievements etc) makes her damn selfless, even IF she killed him.

The fact that he was too simple to explain hunger, and therefore started eating random household objects (yeh, thats a hell of a lifestyle) means it probably was an accident.

Bah, this stuff all boils my piss so i'm stopping here. But NO one should ever have to be cared for past 15 on a permanent basis. Or care for someone for that matter. It's horrific.
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[Visitor Q]

[colin1]

I think your threshold for justifiable euthanasia is a bit low.

I'd say at the very least, the person to be killed has to be in pain that cant be relieved by drugs. They also need to give consent.

Being an inconvenience to family members, isnt a justifiable reason in my book. If they cant cope, they can get respite care, they can even abandon the person at a homeless shelter with no ID on them. Not ideal, but better than killing them.

The worrying thing is that I'm sure there are people with opinions like yours who work in hospitals and not all of them get convicted for things they get up to.
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[killa]

That news link is blocked at work here, can someone just give me the brief over view of the case please?

Thanks
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