How many points

bikedudextrm · Traffic Copper Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Karma :

Just wondering how many points does it take to loose your licence. I was talking to some one the other day who has 6 points on their provisional licence and i was pretty sure 6 points mean you loose it on a provisional. Also how many points is it on a full licence. Thanks for any information.

Adam_P · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Karma :

I think that once you get to twelve, then you can wave bye bye to the pink plastic in your wallet. Wink

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Hex · Party Boy Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

On your full license its 12 points. However if you have held it less than 2 years its 6 points.

Not sure on a provisional.
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priller · Brolly Dolly Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Karma :

Your allowed 12 points on a provisional.

After you pass your test if you get points that take you upto or over 6 within 2 years they revoke your licence.

12 points on a full licence before they ban you.

ProXimaCore · Dougal Joined: 01 May 2003 Karma :

What happens if you have passed your car test 2 years ago then pass your motorcycle test now? Do you have to go through the 6 points in 2 years thing all over again?

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Adam_P · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Karma :

Yeah, but only for the part that counts. So if you've had your car license for three years and then get your bike part, you have two years to behave yourself or you lose the bike part and have to do it again.

That's what I was concerned about after passing my DAS, as if I get points through the car, it counts against the bike test, so I'd have to do it all again. Rolling Eyes

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priller · Brolly Dolly Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Karma :

Adam_P · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Karma :

Not what I was told by the guys at the DSA when I passed my theory test Priller. I can lose my bike entitlement from my licence if I get 6 points or more over the next two years. Whether its from my car or from my bike.

The moral is, be fookin careful for two years!

And I think you'll find now that every person that gets a ban has to re-sit a practical test before they get their licence back.
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priller · Brolly Dolly Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Karma :

bikedudextrm · Traffic Copper Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Karma :

Thanks for the information guys, i better be more careful as i only got my full licence about 6 months ago and also how long do points take to come as i have a few Embarassed

and it makes my insurance pretty high.

priller · Brolly Dolly Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Karma :

I think its 3 years before they come off but you need to tell the insurance company upto 4 or 5 years back.

Luke_Retrofly · Silly Lesbian Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Karma :

Hi
Dosnt your licence get taken away if you get so many points withing a certain time. I think it might be 9 in 6 months (no matter how long you've had your licence). I might be wrong though?

Luke
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Mattastic · Trackday Trickster Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Karma :

A bloke where I work reckons he has 15 points in his licence and that he got a special dispensation as he has to travel 50 miles a day and uses the car for his disabled kid.
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ZaphodBeeble · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Karma :

It's 4 years before the points come off your license. Sod telling the insurance company after 5 years. As far as I'm concerned, if the points aren't on my license, the insurance company doesn't need to know.

I have 7 points at the moment, all for not having insurance back in 2000. They came down on me pretty hard which wasn't very fair as I actually did have insurance but the broker was messing me about (it was some time after I had cancelled the insurance that I got summonsed).

Another thing, you can plead with the courts to let you keep your license (as Mattastic said) if you have a good enough reason.

Just ride carefully (maybe fast, but be wary Razz

) and you won't have any problems. Thumbs Up

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MikeyC · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Aug 2002 Karma :

I got so many points and tickets recently Ive been invited to the policemans ball....!

only kidding just got the 3 points

AcIdBuRnZ · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Karma :

I got 3 points + £60 fixed penalty by a mobile camera unit, it was a foggy day, and they were sitting tucked in a corner of the flyover as I passed underneath it....c%#@*!!!

Was in a car, was doing 81mph...which was actually very lucky because I think that was about the slowest I was going on the motorway that day Laughing

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T.C · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

Once you are on 11 points you then become what is called a "Totter" and any further endorsable offences leave you liable for disqualification under the totting up procedure.

Likewise if you are on 9 points, you will not be offered a fixed penalty for speeding as the standard 3 points would also make you a totter so it would have to be a Court appearance.

However, even though you may have sufficient points to have you banned, it is entirely at the discretion of the magistrates, so if you can show good reason why you shouldn't lose your licence, in theory you could end up riding with a licence showing 15+ points on it.

An extended re-test is only required if ordered by the court, this is normally applied when someone is convicted of a major driving offence such as death by dangerous driving, dangerous or careless driving, racing on the highway or similar offences.

Magistrates have discretion on most things, for example I went to court with a friend of mine a couple of weeks ago for doing 110 on the Motorway. I gave evidence as a character witness and not only did he keep his licence, but he only got 4 points and £125 fine. The guy before him was done for 104 and was fined £300 and got a 6 month ban, both were on clean licences. At the end of the day, if the Magistrates want to make life awkward regardless of whether you have a clean licence or not, they can do just that.
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Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

I think having a good lawyer helps too. Wink

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dainesefreak · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Karma :

OT - TC - Have you been out on the Rocket III yet?

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dainesefreak · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Karma :

Don't they recon it will pull about 1.2g when accelerating? Sounds like a great trip!

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dainesefreak · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Karma :

They were saying 0-60mph in two secs at 1.2g in T.W.O mag.