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philnewbike Two Stroke Sniffer
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Posted: 09:34 - 12 Aug 2020 Post subject: Satnav with shortest / direct route option? |
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Hi there
Satnavs used to have a shortest route option - the one that took people through dirt roads, through fords, over mountains, and generally got them into trouble etc - but I can't find a satnav that has this anymore. I have tried google Maps, Waze and a few of the obvious ones and they have lots of options but not this one. Please could someone suggest an App that still does this?
Reason: I want to avoid motorways (yes, this can be done on some apps) and dual carriage ways (not an option in satnavs I have tried) and go by the prettiest most silly windy uneconomical direct route without going near a main road
Cheers!
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Posted: 09:49 - 12 Aug 2020 Post subject: |
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Thanks but that doesn't do it either, it just does a route that is far longer than it needs to be |
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philnewbike wrote: |
Thanks but that doesn't do it either, it just does a route that is far longer than it needs to be |
Ah OK, slightly misread your needs. I haven't tried beeline as Dynax suggests, but know people that use it. For a short while TomTom did the Vio, which was specifically designed for scooters and mopeds, that avoided certain types of road in its algorithm so if someone has one second hand they don't want it might be worth a look? |
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Posted: 10:37 - 12 Aug 2020 Post subject: |
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That actually is a great idea on a motorbike, pity it's so expensive. |
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Posted: 11:19 - 12 Aug 2020 Post subject: |
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Thanks, but I just downloaded it and it won't let me sign up: keeps saying "email is badly formatted" (tried a few, all same error) so I think this is full of bugs. besides, it doesn't seem to have a shortest route option, just a as the crow flies option, which is not ideal as then it leads you down dead ends.
the on-bike device looks cool though, but I don't want to spend much cash and if the app won't even let me sign up (and has very low feedback of 3 stars) I think I'll skip this
sorry, appreciate the tip tho! |
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struan80 wrote: |
That actually is a great idea on a motorbike, pity it's so expensive. |
It is great. I've done about a thousand miles with mine now and it allows me to easily navigate around on the best roads available. I can sit in my living room, streetview the road I'm choosing, plot my waymarkers and when I go out hit start and it gives me prompts. But it's not in your face, in your ear or distracting you when you're just trying to have a decent ride.
There are some quirks that I'm learning my way around, but in general it's been excellent and I'd recommend it.
Expensive? Yeah, but it's only a nifty to a ton over what you'd really want to pay and you only buy on once. I justified it to myself that I don't have to sit there faffing with my phone in a cover or stopping every 5 mins for a check of the map. I'm not too upset. |
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arry wrote: | It is great. I've done about a thousand miles with mine now and it allows me to easily navigate around on the best roads available. I can sit in my living room, streetview the road I'm choosing, plot my waymarkers and when I go out hit start and it gives me prompts. But it's not in your face, in your ear or distracting you when you're just trying to have a decent ride.
There are some quirks that I'm learning my way around, but in general it's been excellent and I'd recommend it.
Expensive? Yeah, but it's only a nifty to a ton over what you'd really want to pay and you only buy on once. I justified it to myself that I don't have to sit there faffing with my phone in a cover or stopping every 5 mins for a check of the map. I'm not too upset. |
I tried out just the app since it was free. Love the idea, but found it lagged behind where I actually was, and the direction indicator slowly drifted away from where it was telling me to go, i.e. if I were on a long straight road, it'd be telling me to go straight, but be pointing at 9 o'clock. I can see me using it if the actual display was accurate, but don't want to fork out a hundred quid to find out. Shame, as it's quite nuggety, and I like nuggety ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: |
It looks intriguing. I can see how it would be fab on a pushbike, but how does it cope with negotiating complex junctions, like a 6-lane roundabout with 7 exits? My Garmin causes me more than enough grief in those situations |
Complex junctions - not that well, it's one of its limitations because you don't have an actual map layout, err, laid out in front of you. The only times this really causes problems are 1) when you stick a waymarker close to a junction as it counts down to the waymarker and then goes AARGGH JUNCHUN! straight after it, but you've already sailed past, so you get used to not doing that, and 2) if you've got something fiddly like crossing a main road where you've got to go left then right within a very short distance - example was a few weeks ago here: https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3257341,0.5122122,3a,75y,233.99h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKPtYNpZpusBvtMBpxfyrQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
It said turn left so I did, but then because I couldn't see the next instruction as I was busy pulling out onto a busy dual carriageway, I didn't know I had to get myself instantly over to the right, so I pinned it and then looked down and went BORRRROOOCCKKKS as I sailed past the right hand deceleration lane.
But on roundabouts it'll tell you which exit number you're taking and if you are good enough a rider to negotiate the roundabout whilst still watching the pointer you'd see the pointer move to indicate which direction you're supposed to be going in. You sort of 'get a feel' for it after a while.
I tend to think of it as a pointer in the right direction rather than a full on navigation system. I didn't want a full on sat-nav anyway. Too obtrusive. If you accept it for its limitations by loving it for its strengths then you'll absolutely love it. If you want a full on nav system then there's better solutions available. |
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The Shaggy D.A. wrote: |
I tried out just the app since it was free. Love the idea, but found it lagged behind where I actually was, and the direction indicator slowly drifted away from where it was telling me to go, i.e. if I were on a long straight road, it'd be telling me to go straight, but be pointing at 9 o'clock. I can see me using it if the actual display was accurate, but don't want to fork out a hundred quid to find out. Shame, as it's quite nuggety, and I like nuggety |
I've not had that issue, it's been pretty much bob on. There's been a few little glitches that you learn to work around but otherwise it's been excellent. The biggest mistake you can make with it is sticking a waymarker on a junction - if you remember not to do that, the actual navigation aspect of it is pretty faultless. |
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So I've ordered one of the Beeline Motos, looks like the dogs ballocks to me really. 30 day money back guarantee if I don't like it.
Got to be better than the 30" 1980's boxed telly that full on Satnavs remind me of. |
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Try www.myrouteapp.com. I've found it to be excellent and I tour quite alot. Can use to export routes to tomtom, garmin etc or even use the myroute navigation app on your phone. Reasonable costs and run by bikers, constant development and improvement. ____________________ Current bike: KTM SD1290GT
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How did you get on? |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 289 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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