33 restriction - insurance companies need proof?

[zip70]

as it says do al insurance companies need proof of restriction or do they take your word, or do you have to send it within a month or whatever? like proof off NCB discount

cheers

Tom
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[Ste]

Some do, some don't, only way to find out is to buy insurance with them really. They will either want the bit of paper or not, you are already telling them you have it restricted by the fact you're signing a bit of paper which will have something about being licensed to ride the bike.

Would expect for it to be asked for in the event of a claim as they don't like paying out so that's when you'll need it if at all, never heard of anyone having problems with a claim and 33bhp though.

[tony532]

we have been through this many times before

you are riding without a license and insurance and tax

if you remove the 33 bhp restriction

[zip70]

Not what i ased is it mate? and you're not my dad i know the law

(cheers ste for a helpful answer)
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[Ste]

[zip70]

and tony how would you be riding withot tax? :S
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[loply]

Restriction "certificate" is just a shitty looking one-side piece of A4 printed from the dynamometer software.

You could whip one up in Word and Excel in about 2 minutes.

[tatters]

[Fortuna]

[Ste]

It is not a simple document, the offical ones look like this:

https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/33bhp_thumb.jpg

So not quite so easy to knock one up in Word, and there are copies of that document, one you get, one goes to FI International and the other stay with the shop who fitted it, so quite easy to check up on if wanted.

[tatters]

so theres no way of getting a fake resistriction certificate?
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[Fortuna]

[Ste]

[Fortuna]

[Ste]

If anyone is interested I have a complete TL1000R 33bhp restrictor kit including the certificate, possible uses for forgery.

[skyline]

[Ste]

[sickpup]

Hi chaps

I've seen this argument many times over many web forums and unless the law has changed since the introduction of the 33bhp law you are all wrong.

Would someone please tell me how a piece of A4 paper with no sworn declaration witnessed by a notary has any relevance. Or maybe how this piece of paper sold by a company to motorbike shops who sign it has any legal standing when it only possibly guarantees the restrictors were there when you left the shop and that the mechanic didn't just give them to you in a bag.

Maybe you can show me the piece of legislation that states this piece of paper has any legal standing.

Maybe some of you with long memories will remember fast bikes building a restricted Fireblade that was 33bhp legal and had no paper work?

Has anyone noticed that manufactured 33bhp restricted bikes have a chassis plate stating 33bhp not a silly A4 sheet?

If as people are suggesting you need this piece of paper to prove that your bike is less than 33bhp why do you not need it for every bike that is less than 33bhp only restricted ones?

Sorry for the rant but most of this thread is legally misleading.

[instigator]

Never seen this chassis plate before, what, so when the bike is restricted, its put onto the engine or something.

Do go on...don't ask questions, let us all know

[Ste]

Never heard about that chassis plate, the law does have faith in bits of A4 paper such as with an insurance cert.... it is incredibly easy to knock something up on your computer which looks like one and believe the police will only do phoning around to confirm it if they have reason to believe it's not real.

Have a read through this thread to confirm what has been said above. Basically you do not have to have the bit of paper, your bike can be inspected if they so wish.

[instigator]

God damnit, thats gonna be £200 out of my insurance funds to get this thing restricted after reading that grrrr

[Robin]

As most insurance quotes are done either on the phone, or online then they will have a record of you telling them that the bike is restricted (this is why they tape phone quotes). If you tell them the bike is restricted and it isn't then you have lied to them and therefore have no valid insurance. Simple as that, they don't need a piece of paper (or not) to declare the insurance void.

[Demonic69]

[Ste]

[instigator]