I don't come here often...

[Flip]

Its the NATIONAL society for the prevention of cruelty to children...

Its the ROYAL society for the protection of cruelty to animals...

Why?

Her fuckin' Corgi's more important then our children?

I really don't know the answer to this.

Enlighten me.

[Itchy]

Cus people love animals more than children , in that animals have no say in their fate and have very little influence in their lives , hence if we see an abused animal it can't do anything about its situation other than die.


Children on the other hand have influence on their situation and ultimate fate, we take pity on abused children but then see chavs smashing up stuff and this moves our pity meter (note itchy does not have such a meter) towards the middle again. And the fact that people can darned well abuse your kindness and exploit it human children are incredibly ruthless at this ruthlesness being naturally selected into the population) , animals do not exploit our kindness , except maybe nasty cats and are generally always forgiving.
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Is royalty more important than nation to you?

[Louise]

I really couldnt give a fook about royalty. Be gone with them!
NSPCC is one I support - One thing that needs to stop is child crulty IMO

[craigie b]

Yeah but the NSPCC is a bunch of wank, sterilising peoples control over their spawn and getting ridiculous laws passed which do nothing to truly protect children.

Example..I remember the NSPCC having posters up saying if smacking your child works why do you have to do it again? To me the answer is easy. Children are stupid and must be taught. Much like a dog, pain is the ultimate detterent. A good smack is why I'm a designer and not in some skanky chav estate just now.

Then they help pass laws where people can no longer discipline their children, even though children who are getting really abused are not going to easily get the protection they need.

[Annabella]

Er, NSPCC is funded by government...

RSPCA funded by charitable donations, from the Royal family


Maybe?

Dunno, never thought about it. Also saw "National" as being a more official, important name than "Royal".

(Grand National over the Royal Chelsea Flower Show; National Health Service over the Royal Society for the Promotion of Health etc etc)
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[DevilWAH]

craigie,
I have to agree.
where as i disigree with the backhander accross the face, ot the leather belt accross the back.
a simple slap to the back of the legs, or bum works wonders.

My parents use to smack us. but to be honest i have only ever been hit a max of about 10 times in my life. And i don't think i was ever hit more than once/twice for the same thing.

NSPCC in my book gets a lot of things wrong. Rather than try to teach parents how to handle there temper, and serve out punisment/reward in a positive manor. they seem just to want to control parents to the point they are no longer able to be good parents even if they want to be!

And as for the RSPCA, i support them to ... Well i sorry but i like animals. I'm still considering jacking in the IT and going to work animals
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[Dark]

I agree with you too Craigie, a lack of decent discipline in recent years has resulted in the ever growing chav population

I don't particularly care too much about kids and would much rather support a society to prevent cruelty to animals. Animals are way cooler than kids
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The RSPCA kill any animals it can't rehome.
Wonder why they don't mention that fact in their adverts

As far as I'm aware the NSPCC hasn't resorted to the RSPCA tactics yet
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[craigie b]

[Fran]

[angryjonny]

[queen of string]

Its down to patronage. The animals have a royal patron ( like a figure head) the kids dont. They both rely on charitable funding and applying for govt funding streams, which are changeable and uncertain. Another point for you to ponder, why are their nearly 2000 animal shelters in the uk and only 200 for the victims of domestic violence ( the split in the level of donations is similar). We currently care more for animals than we do the victims of domestic violence, many of whom are children. Personally I never give to animal charities for this reason.
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[stinkwheel]

The NSPCC were responsable for that 'stanism' debacle on the Orkney Isles where they snatched loads of kids from their beds early in the morning. All on the basis of what would appear to have been the most insubstantial of evidence.

[Teaman]

I wonder how many people who dont have kids agreed that smacking there children sorted the problem,


ITS NOT THE FUCKIN KIDS FAULT

the parents need a smack if they cant controll there kids by simple dissaplin
the problem starts when a kid demands something, the parent says no, the kids goes on one and the parent gives in,

now the kid knows that if they keep pushing the limits, the parent will give in,
smacking a child for doing something wrong? now theres a good one, If you do something that i dissagree with should i come round and slap you? I dont think so. the child will only think that its perfectly acceptable to hit someone who wont do as there told, like lend them a pen....


I think, mr fflip that the national and or royal thing dates back quite a while
what does matter though is that the royal thing makes no difference to the importance of some things I believe,
theres the
rspca
nspcc
rspb
an so on
this link is helpfull
https://www.library.veryhelpful.co.uk/Page%2051.htm

and this is for the numpties who think hanging should be brough back for kids who dont eat there greens
https://www.positiveparenting.com/
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[stinkwheel]

Just a little thought exercise.

Toddler in the same room as say a woodburning stove. Now the kid is old enough to understand what you tell them and persistantly makes a beeline for the woodburning stove.

You can take one of the following courses of action:

1) Repeat "Don't touch that dear, it's hot." every time the kid goes near it.

2) Put a guard round the stove.

3) Tell the child it is good and give it a sticker every time it doesn't try to touch the stove.

4) Move the child away every time it goes near the stove.

5) Tell the child "Don't touch that, it's hot". When it ignores you the first time tell it "Don't touch that, it's hot. If you do that again, you'll get a smack.". When it ignores you the third time, give it a smack.

6) Let it learn the hard way then a quick trip to A+E for a bandage.

To me, there are only two of those courses of action that will teach the child that it shouldn't touch woodburning stoves and only one that will avoid it burning its fingers when left in a room with one at some point in the future.

[Retro-Man]

How about take the kid to the stove, hold your own and his/her hand near enough to feel the heat explain that to get any closer will hurt a lot and agree with the child that they will not get too close
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[stinkwheel]

They'll touch it anyway as soon as your back is turned. I've sat and watched many a kid take option 6 (with many things, not just stoves).

Maybe it's the only option?

[Itchy]

maybe we should open a child training school for life skills and experiences ie make a fake hot stove but some how use nerve induction for pain rather than real pain causing things ,

those bloody disposable cameras turned into zappers (espcially when they put 8-9 of them together ) hurt quite a bit esp if you are unprepared for it, but don't leave wounds.
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[Jesus_Christ]

I'd never hit a child to discipline them.





I hit them purely for pleasure!

Stand by for a karma rape!
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