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PostPosted: 18:08 - 01 Sep 2006    Post subject: MMR Vaccine side effects? Reply with quote

I had an MMR booster yesterday (i've been meaning to get it done for ages), but i'm experiencing weirdness in my left arm now. It's really making me feel sick Sick Has any one else had the vaccine?

I've looked up all the usual side effects but nothing matches?

The top of my left arm is tender (i'm guessing that's from the needle), the back of my shoulder has a piercing pain in it, and my hand has almost constant pins and needles. This all came on about 10am this morning.

Can anyone help?
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 01 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a trapped nerve to be honest. I occassionally get tingling in my chest and biceps from a trapped nerve in my neck.....I got this from sleeping wrong. Rolling Eyes I also get sharp pains at the top of my back next to my shoulders. Pain in the ass.

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PostPosted: 18:29 - 01 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amputation may help... or failing that, a tourniquet around the throat will solve ALL problems permanently?? Twisted Evil

Sorry I'm being flippant, I'm just getting to the end of a particularly boring 12 hour shift and trying to keep amused Embarassed Embarassed I'll get me coat Rolling Eyes Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 01 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sounds like a trapped nerve to be honest. I occassionally get tingling in my chest and biceps from a trapped nerve in my neck.....I got this from sleeping wrong. I also get sharp pains at the top of my back next to my shoulders. Pain in the ass.


Really?

Can't say i've ever had a trapped nerve but i'm liking the sound of it now! Thought my arm was going to drop off or something Laughing

Thanks! Very Happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 01 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dazbo666 wrote:
Amputation may help... or failing that, a tourniquet around the throat will solve ALL problems permanently?? Twisted Evil


Laughing

I think amputation is a bit extreme, and the hanging myself thing is even worse, but thanks for the input! Hope your shift ends soon Wink
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since a friends son developed autism, i've gone the single jab route.

Cost per jab is something like £130 though , * 3
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bloody hate trapped nerves , but amputation does not help , theres something called phantom nerves ie people who have a painful limb self amputate , the brain rejigs the nerves in the body and its much worse cus you can still 'feel' the pain but can't do anything about it , ie trying to scratch or massage it cus it isn't actually there anymore.

A German Pal had something similar when she was involved in an accident she didn't lose any limbs but stroking her face would make her feel as if her thigh was being stroked, but then this might have been a misinterpretated by her as something else ie a younger version of itch doing some moves on her.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mondeokid wrote:
Since a friends son developed autism, i've gone the single jab route.

Cost per jab is something like £130 though , * 3
Ouch


well Blair's children all had singies , go figure , better to burn some cash than take the risk eh? , sort of like going via main roads rather than quiet slum inner city roads , fast and less petrol but you tend to get ambushed by chavs.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The three jab versus the single is such a void issue. The amount of cases of disease arising from children not getting the vaccines or taking the single ones far outweighs any chances of developing autism IMO. Christ a definite link was never proven so families are risking deadly diseases in the 1 in a million chance their kid develops autism

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PostPosted: 15:37 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Since a friends son developed autism, i've gone the single jab route.


Sorry, you dont develop Autism. It is a condition you are born with which generally doesnt show symtoms (because you cant see it) until the child reaches an age where they can walk and talk etc.
I dont blame the MMR for it as I just think its bad timing as its when Autism generally shows. My daughter also had the MMR and she doesnt have austism.

As for the aches, it could be a trapped nerve but I had a tetnus (sp?) a few weeks back and my arm and back were agony for about a week. Dont know if the same can happen with MMR.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Autism was around before the MMR vaccine, it's just an excuse for stupid parents to make for their own defunctioning genes and get loads of compensation for it.

It's more likely the child got autism cause they had sex doggy style than cause the child had the MMR.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Autism was around before the MMR vaccine, it's just an excuse for stupid parents to make for their own defunctioning genes and get loads of compensation for it.

It's more likely the child got autism cause they had sex doggy style than cause the child had the MMR.


I actually found that very upsetting and insulting, Im far from stupid thanks and it is in no way our fault as parents that our child has autism. You should shut the fuck up and think about it before you say things like that. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My daughter was given the MMR just after she was 1. The Doctor kindly put the needle to high up and too high in.

It took a week before the rubella part of the vaccination caused massive inflamation in her hips, a large build up of fluid and an inability to walk without screaming in pain.

This then developed into juvenile arthritis and nobody in Darlington could diagnose this. It took a private appointment with a consultant, Child physio, nurse and Bone specialist to find the cure.

After being set back with her walking by 3 months, I'm glad to say she is free of any further problems.

I'm sure the MMR is safe and would probably give this to our next child, but not in Darlington.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err that post wasn't even aimed at you before you get on the soap box and shout me down.

I'm referring to the whole MMR - Autism link. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Re: MMR Vaccine side effects? Reply with quote

Leggy_Girl wrote:
I had an MMR booster yesterday (i've been meaning to get it done for ages), but i'm experiencing weirdness in my left arm now. It's really making me feel sick Sick Has any one else had the vaccine?

I've looked up all the usual side effects but nothing matches?

The top of my left arm is tender (i'm guessing that's from the needle), the back of my shoulder has a piercing pain in it, and my hand has almost constant pins and needles. This all came on about 10am this morning.

Can anyone help?


Hi Legs,

I've not had the jab as an adult, but I know discomfort in the arm is somewhat expected. It should die down though.

You may also find that the place where you were injected could suddenly flare up, and look infected or awful. This happens, but the reason is normally that you've come into contact with someone with measles or mumps. You may come into contact with more people than you think who carry these for a brief time. Your body will react as the immune system kicks in, and the heightened levels of antibodies cause inflammation of the injection spot. So don't panis if that happens..

Hope your arms comes right soon.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Err that post wasn't even aimed at you before you get on the soap box and shout me down.

I'm referring to the whole MMR - Autism link.


I dont think the MMR causes Autism but I also dont agree with your quote that it is 'stupid parents and their defunctioning genes that causes autism' (which is what you were implying), I know that wasnt directed at me because you didnt know I have an autistic child but is damn insulting to any parent who has a special needs child.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What, because I have a differing view on the situation that other people?

Ultimately it is the parents fault. I'm not saying they could have done anything about it, due to the fact many parents will not have been aware they are carriers of genes that could cause a disease in a child. The point i'm trying to get across is that it is pointless parents shouting "It's the MMR's fault" just because their child has a "special need" that they didn;t want.

It sounds harsh and for the upset I have caused I apologise. I just get angry at the media for making such an issue out of the pretty much zero link between the MMR vaccine which saves lives and a disability.

My apologies, Jon.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
Autism was around before the MMR vaccine, it's just an excuse for stupid parents to make for their own defunctioning genes and get loads of compensation for it.

It's more likely the child got autism cause they had sex doggy style than cause the child had the MMR.


This is easily the most thoughtless, heartless, misinformed, misguided, juvenile and offensive post I've ever seen on a forum so far.

Sad..
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ultimately it is the parents fault.


This comes a close second. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arfdog wrote:
Jon B wrote:
Autism was around before the MMR vaccine, it's just an excuse for stupid parents to make for their own defunctioning genes and get loads of compensation for it.

It's more likely the child got autism cause they had sex doggy style than cause the child had the MMR.


This is easily the most thoughtless, heartless, misinformed, misguided, juvenile and offensive post I've ever seen on a forum so far.

Sad..


Whilst what was said was put very badly, what parents do generally want when their children have a chronic health problem is:

1) An explaination for the disorder
2) Someone (preferably someone else) to blame

MMR may just be a convenient scapegoat for autism. Sometimes these things really are just down to bad luck and possibly even, yes, bad gene combinations (which is no-one's fault, just bad luck).

A similar thing occurs with some adult health problems, but generally to a lesser extent than when children are involved.

Cue arguments about ME and ADHD.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
Autism was around before the MMR vaccine, it's just an excuse for stupid parents to make for their own defunctioning genes and get loads of compensation for it.

It's more likely the child got autism cause they had sex doggy style than cause the child had the MMR.


I find that upsetting also, my sister is severly autistic and my parents are not stupid and dont claim it was the MMR jab that done it either. So i recent that.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah everybody pull out the self righteous "I have a friend/sister/relative who has autism, ADHD etc etc" card.

Why is it on this forum people get all uppity if someone actually speaks their mind, doesn;t beat around the bush and just face up to some facts and not be completely consumed by what the media wants you to believe. I don't profess to being a Biology graduate but I know enough to know that these disorders are gene related, it is COMPLETELY and utterly naive to think that MMR is related to autism. Nobody has even proved how.

Fortunately there are people who don;t jump on the bandwagon and actually look at the point I am trying to make, which is entirely correct and just because I put it in a bad way, for which I apologised for nobody acknowledges that, yet they just kick you when you are down.

Instead of getting all emotional can't we have a discussion based on what you think.

I guess seeing as there are so many sensitive females on this forum you can't help but be flamed when you say something direct. Even if compassionately.

If anybody can actually prove that the MMR Vaccine is linked to autism please, please guide me to the info.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seen your apology there.Thats ok. Its just the way you put it calling parents stupid that i took exception to. As i said my parents dont blame the MMR jab for it cause there isnt any proof your right there. I would like to know where the link for the MMR jab and autism came out of. Nothing wrong with speaking your mind but did you expect people to be alright with it when you where calling them stupid and having dysfunctional genes for it? Having an autistic child is difficult, i have one in the same house as me and its not easy looking after her. And i am sure alot of parents with autistic children would frown upon your earlier comment also.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 05 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing I would give to a child in darlington, is a train ticket out of there.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 06 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
Oh yeah everybody pull out the self righteous "I have a friend/sister/relative who has autism, ADHD etc etc" card.

Why is it on this forum people get all uppity if someone actually speaks their mind, doesn;t beat around the bush and just face up to some facts and not be completely consumed by what the media wants you to believe. I don't profess to being a Biology graduate but I know enough to know that these disorders are gene related, it is COMPLETELY and utterly naive to think that MMR is related to autism. Nobody has even proved how.

Fortunately there are people who don;t jump on the bandwagon and actually look at the point I am trying to make, which is entirely correct and just because I put it in a bad way, for which I apologised for nobody acknowledges that, yet they just kick you when you are down.

Instead of getting all emotional can't we have a discussion based on what you think.

I guess seeing as there are so many sensitive females on this forum you can't help but be flamed when you say something direct. Even if compassionately.

If anybody can actually prove that the MMR Vaccine is linked to autism please, please guide me to the info.


If you read the posts on this thread so far, you will see that no-one is blaming anything on the MMR jab, so I don't know what you are arguing against. No-one is going to provide proof there is a link, because there is no link, no proof, and no fecking supporters of the theory anyway, they all agree with you already, you tool.

What many people (not just sensitive females) are getting upset about is the fact that it sounds like you are suggesting that autism originates from parents who are stupid, and knowingly have children, and then feel they need some kind of excuse for doing so, so they argue for the MMR-autism theory.

1: Parents of autistic children are not stupider than the rest of us, in fact from what I've seen, the opposite seems true.
2: You only discover your child has autism when they are a few years old, and you cannot predict it before birth.
3: Some parents plan and have children despite knowing that there is a chance for autism. Nothing wrong there either.
4: Whenever there is an investigation into the link between medicines and diseases, there are going to be claims for compensation and similar things going on. This is GOOD. It drives research and prompts for evidence to prove or disprove any links, and may aslo prompt a decision to ban a drug, whereas without a public furore, a drugs company may be able to go on selling their drug for years, and harm many lives along the way.

The people who end up in court arguing that their child got autism because of an MMR jab, are there because
1: their child probably did develop autism after an MMR jab (co-incidentally)
2: a theory abounded at the time that MMR jab could possibly be linked to autism
OF COURSE some parents are going to want to investigate (and see compensation if it was true).

The link was not created by the media for entertainment purposes (or to sell newspapers, although any bit of news obviously helps), but because there are HUGE implications if there are links. What if the papers didn't carry the story out of some principle, and there were links? No-one would know, everyone would continue to receive the jab, and you end up with an autistic gereation. Claims of any links between drugs which are presribed to EVERYBODY, and any disease or condition, must be thoroughly investigated.

So, before you accuse everyone on jumping on some bandwagon, can you point us to the posts where you saw anyone blame their child's autism on MMR? Can you point out any posts where the writer is completely consumed with 'what the media wants them to believe'?
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