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Louise
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PostPosted: 02:11 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: 9/11 5 Years On Reply with quote

Well, 5 years to this date.
Can you fooking believe 5 years have gone Question

I’m writing this in a merry state. I’ve just gone onto a forum; I couldn’t post due to it being in a mark of respect of the 9/11.
5 years have past, so, so very quickly. I can’t believe it.
Such a sad sad day.
I remember, I was 17/18 in bed. Dad came into me (I was listing to head phones) Said 'one of the twin towers is on fire.
Me being me, didn’t give a shit, didn’t know what the hell it was ect ect. I just said 'oh right ok'
But after 10 mins it intrigued me to go look.
Low and behold, it was on TV - every channel.
I was interested how such a big building was on fire like that.
Carried on watching, could see, what seemed a helicopter very close to the building, the wing of it (TV was broadcasting quite far way)
Then 'Bang' the 2nd plane went it. My mouth dropped. Heart sank. Mind wondered.
Thinking WTF is going on. I felt very weird, two tall buildings attacked, one buy a plane (back then I didn’t even think it was two planes that went in to them)

I just remember this day back 5 years ago, very clearly, I remember every moment.

Mum comes home from work, 11am roughly, told her twin towers were under attack.

Both mum n dad knew what they were... But, I just didn’t have a clue.

We were all glued to the TV.... A building like that, 110 stories high if I am correct...... Both struck above the middle floors, surely can survive..... I put the hope into the bruvs and sis of the NYFD
(For who don’t know, I am myself trying for the fire service so we all call each other bruv)

Watching and watching, then one just collapses...

I can’t tell you what I was thinking back then, I really can’t.
Going from something I don’t know, to something I feel for is a lot.
So many minutes after, the other collapses.
I’m sickened with hate (I didn’t know who done it) But to all those people who died, who were trapped.
Who did this? I don’t know, I wasn’t worried then. I was just shocked, shocked to fook with what happened.

The mess, the aftermath - The pentagon, the United airplane also.
I just could not understand what went on.


But, 5 years on today it’s still remembered. Remembered with good faith. Every Firefighter/Police/Paramedic will remember this morning what went on 5 years ago.


I Believe the US government had a lot to do with this.
I’ve seen the films, persuaded me. The truth needs to come out.
Once and for all.

This post may have bored a few of you, but I feel so strongly about 9/11.
And may god rest there soul.

RIP 9.11.2001 11.9.2001
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PostPosted: 07:09 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think everyone knows where they were.
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno, think the amount of allies killed in the "War on Terror" now outnumbers those killed on "9/11". Think I will be thinking of their poor families just as much.

But you are right, those 5 years have flown by.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP 1 million+ iraqis and afghans.

Not really bothered about 3000 wealthy americans.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
RIP 1 million+ iraqis and afghans.

Not really bothered about 3000 wealthy americans.


Assume you did not know anyone lost in the towers then.

I did.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
Not really bothered about 3000 wealthy americans.


wealthy americans?

what the fire fighters and emergency services that lost their lives trying to save others?
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
RIP 1 million+ iraqis and afghans.

Not really bothered about 3000 wealthy americans.

I'm sure they appreciate the sentiment.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thread on the london bombings anniversary pretty much sums up my feelings on the world trade center attacks of 2001. I have slowly lost any empathy I felt towards America when I saw the towers collapse due to their behaviour since then. Unless you have lost someone you knew, I don't see the point in mentioning it.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see Robs point but I wouldn't want to directly offend someone by saying I 'don't care'.
Whenever someone dies an untimely death it is a trajedy, all humans feel the same pain.
However I don't like the fact that the deaths of those in the towers are seen to be any more tragic or unjust than many of the people killed since in retaliation or in any other act of violence or terrorism accross the world.

So, when these huge anniversaries come around I do find myself getting annoyed with it, you lose sympathy first and then it turns to a negative sentiment. I think the year after it happened there was a 3 minute silence , instead of the usual 1. That pissed me off quite frankly.
I just remind myself that it was sad that those people died and I feel sorry for those that lost loved ones, but that's it, I try to keep it in perspective and keep the political significance separate from the human one.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting piece on 9/11 that I read last week :-

https://ranprieur.com/essays/911FAQ.html
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lost interest as soon as I started reading, but managed to hang in there long enough to read this little gem:

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Or think of it this way: it would only take a few hours for an expert team to plant thermobarics or micro-nukes with more destructive force, and more symmetrical distribution, than a plane hitting a building.


Sure - no problem, the Twin Towers were demolished by Fuel-Air-Explosives and 'Mini-Nukes' (?!?) without anyone noticing the enormous signature explosions of either of those weapons - not to mention the radiation fallout from the nukes.

Le bollocks!
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
Sure - no problem, the Twin Towers were demolished by Fuel-Air-Explosives and 'Mini-Nukes' (?!?) without anyone noticing the enormous signature explosions of either of those weapons - not to mention the radiation fallout from the nukes.

Le bollocks!


I agree, that one is definitley wishful thinking. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can still remember that day quite clearly in my head.

I was on the bus just coming into Victoria Station with some friends after college. There were loads of police about (some armed and others on horseback). We all wondered what was going on, but assumed it was just another bomb scare (lots of these happen at Victoria Station). So just got off the bus and split, thinking nothing more of the incident.

Got home and put on the TV as I normally do so that I could relax, but I was greeted with the news on all channels showing a smoking building. I was watching thinking "shit, that is pretty unlucky, to lose control of a plane and hit that tower". Then all of a sudden the camera focused on another plane which then smashed straight into the second tower. I was astonished at what I just saw and had shivers down my spine. First of all I thought "Surely not a second accident...no way!!". I was in disbelief that this just happened but then came to the conclusion that this was a deliberate act.

I sat there watching the events unfold as reporters were broadcasting live from the bottom of the two smoking towers. Then I remember them showing people jumping out of the towers to their deaths, hitting the ledges of the building on the way down. All this live on tv. Very sad to see.

After a little more time, I then remember seeing the building just crashing down onto itself, and seeing the people running from the falling debris and the cloud of dust that was swallowing the streets. Then the second fell.

I was shocked that such a thing had happened and continued watching the news to find out as much as I could.

Obviously this a a terrible event that has happened and lots of innocent people have died. But also the fact that this event was used as the reason for war in the Middle East and Afghanistan, where lots and lots of innocent people have been killed.

So RIP to all innocent lives that have been lost in the 9/11 attacks and also in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the workshop when the first one hit and the radio just said a plane had hit the wtc, followed by lots of jokes along the line's of didn't he see the bloody thing it's not as if there's that much to dodge when your flying (we were expecting it to be a small plane too). Shocked . I did feel a bit of a twat when the second hit and more details came through. Scince then and all the media coverage,american reaction,conspiracy theories and the rest of it I'm getting a bit fed up with it all tbh. The family and friends of people who died have my deepest sympathies but it must really piss them off have it in there faces all the time.

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Mum comes home from work, 11am roughly, told her twin towers were under attack.


Were you in the state's when it happend?
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
RIP 1 million+ iraqis and afghans.

Not really bothered about 3000 wealthy americans.


Oh Dear! We are a little pig ignorant are we not? It wasn't just Americans that died, but many, many people of differing nationalities.
As someone else pointed out, there were many emergency workers, especially fire fighters who were killed as well.
Your remark is fucking typical of the ignorant Yank haters in this country.
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I think Robby knows that.

But it's also quite sad that we have to kill many more people than they did to get "our" point across.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didge wrote:

Oh Dear! We are a little pig ignorant are we not? It wasn't just Americans that died, but many, many people of differing nationalities.
As someone else pointed out, there were many emergency workers, especially fire fighters who were killed as well.

Except, of course, that the Americans always portray it as 3xxx of /their/ country men that died.

Yes a lot of people died at once.
But I don't see those lives as many important than say 3000 lives out of the up to one million lives of people killed in Rwanda. Yet I see so very, very little about those one million people who were killed and so very, very much about a massively smaller number of people.

These breeds a lot of contempt for me about the situation.

Also, after this date, the US government seems to have stepped up to the role as the primary organisation for 'terrorising' people (I bet a whole load more people are afraid because of their actions than any so called 'terrorists'.)
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but the recent run of 9/11 programming do seem to 'pump the terrorist agenda'. It just feels like propoganda.

We, as an 'allied' force have killed and continue to kills tens of thousands of innocents in the name of the 'war on terror', with no obvious successes (or even a clear target - will capturing/killing one man end his legacy or simply make him stronger?).

As G (and Robby) point out, America is by far the more aggressive 'terrorist' at present.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember it was strange day, I knew of the towers but didn’t know exactly what the deal was inside them.
The BBC red tickertape thing scrolled across the bottom of the screen, I got a bowl of cereal and flicked between channels, I left it on BBC and tried to take in some of the information and then I saw the second plane hit the other tower.
My thoughts went straight away to all the workers in the surrounding area just trying to get through their day, it was a little weird seeing it all unfold on the small screen.
Forget all the bullshit about caring for East just as much, we have strong connections with America, we wouldn’t be where we are now if it wasn’t for them, although this is a strange time for both countries I did feel a lot for the people over there who are just like me.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killa wrote:

we wouldn’t be where we are now if it wasn’t for them

What, at war? Neutral
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

pwntifex wrote:
What, at war?


Try reading the next part instead of shooting stupid comments out like that.
If you seriously didnt understand what i meant, go down the library. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

Except, of course, that the Americans always portray it as 3xxx of /their/ country men that died.

Yes a lot of people died at once.
But I don't see those lives as many important than say 3000 lives out of the up to one million lives of people killed in Rwanda. Yet I see so very, very little about those one million people who were killed and so very, very much about a massively smaller number of people.

These breeds a lot of contempt for me about the situation.

Also, after this date, the US government seems to have stepped up to the role as the primary organisation for 'terrorising' people (I bet a whole load more people are afraid because of their actions than any so called 'terrorists'.)


How often have you read about the butchering of white farmers in South Africa? There are 40,000 white farmers in South Africa. Over 1,200 have been brutally murdered since 1994 - the year the African National Congress took power. Never see THAT in the papers either, do we.
There is so much that goes unreported, and that's down to the media. Unfortunate, but true.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didge wrote:
How often have you read about the butchering of white farmers in South Africa? There are 40,000 white farmers in South Africa. Over 1,200 have been brutally murdered since 1994 - the year the African National Congress took power. Never see THAT in the papers either, do we.
There is so much that goes unreported, and that's down to the media. Unfortunate, but true.


lol, an unfortunate career path indeed, I could put money on it, that you, Didge, would never go off farming in South Africa. Common sense really.

If the news reported all that is missed it would be on 24hrs a day and make everyones lives a misery, the most important things are reported, yes important in a political, economical sense but lets face it, that is most important.

And please before you all start gibbering on like Jacko, the world is a cruel place and in the western world are leaders know this all too well, every man for himself.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:

lol, an unfortunate career path indeed, I could put money on it, that you, Didge, would never go off farming in South Africa. Common sense really.



These are families that have lived in South Africa for generations. They have the choice of leaving all their wealth, heritage and family homes or risk being slaughtered... I can understand why it is so hard for people to leave. Most say they felt safe in their community and felt like an integral part of it being friends with blacks and whites alike. No common sense or choice about it. It's where they were born, where they live.
The first wave took everyone by complete surprise.
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