A whole new kind of problem... (MAJOR UPDATE AT BOTTOM 02/02

[msgander]

yep if dead in tube they will leave be but not for long due to infection......

Just sounds a bit odd, time gamma got to the bottom of it and parents got involved...

Be doubtful, in fact put money on it like you say at 12 weeks live in a tube, no chance, I was only 6 and had no pain whatsoever! - they were not letting me go anywhere even tho I wanted to go home and was not in pain!

Stranger things have happened but gamma!! get to the bottom of this.......
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[Adam_P]

Is it just me that wants to cry out,


"Jackanory!!!!!!"

About this story?
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[msgander]

dont think its jackanory, think gamma's gf may be either very confused or leading him up garden parth....either way he needs to sort it out and then walk away!!
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[gammamanuk]

Right final and last update.

Shes been away at her fathers some 100 miles away since Friday

She has been really bad and bleeding, so she said she went to the hospital and seen someone, next minute she has lost the 2 babies with no explanation as to why.

Now the bits i couldn't work out.

1) If she was in hospital she wouldnt be using her phone as much as she was using it to text me/ring me.

2) If she was that bad she would have been kept her in and she would have had to have an operation.

Instead, shes at home, she doesnt sound any different, and the babies are gone.

Everytime i try to talk to her she gets the hump and hangs up, she just said ive got to be calm because of the stuff they gave me and continues to hang up, but she wont tell me what shes done.

6 or 7 hours later with me crying down the phone because of the sheer anger and frustration i finally upset her too and manage to get through it step by step, she was bleeding badly, she went to hospital at around 8am this morning, they give her an injection in her arm and she went to sleep, woke up an hour later and it was over and done with, she doesnt know how they got rid of them, they let her go home 3 hours later.
Im so mad im shaking and im going to cry..

One thing after another for me for the last 4 years, takes a big man to take the easy way out, ive tried it once and failed, but im seriously sick of the same old me, the same shitty jobs, the same lame hobbies like my fucking car and this clapped out computer.

Im like a child stuck in a mans body, and day by day im becoming more obvious to this, no one knows me, no one understands me, not even my parents.

I stole money to pay for my car, ive done everything the easy way, got into debt and not paid it back, done a lot of things that no one expected of me, just really dont feel human anymore.

How much can a man take? Suppose i better tell my parents ive made another fuck up because of my own stupidity.

SO since 2002:

1) Lost about 30 jobs

2) got over 4000 in debt, cards, bought things on finance and never paid them back, so now i cant get credit

3) lost all my friends

4) trid to commit suicide but just managed to live, 3 more pills and i would have been dead, how pissed do you think i feel?

5) stole a lot to get the things i want in life to make myself feel normal

Now i can't even make 2 healthy babies.

Ive lost 2 stone in weight near enough these past few months, i can't eat, i can't sleep, im just living on borrowed time, im like a zombie, life really has no meaning to me, i just earn my money pay my way and enjoy what i can with it, i don't see any purpose or point in life anymore and havent for a good 2 years now.

But yet again, same day, same shit job, same shit money, same shit car, same shit computer, same shit bedroom in parents house with same stuck up cunt boyfriend who i have to look at everyday and remember what he did to me an all...

Sometimes its better be dumb and lie down and take it all and let the world take you like an idiot, than to be intelligent and wise up to things.

[McGee]

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[craigie b]

Look on the bright, once you get over the hurt of losing the chikdren you can let out a huge sigh of relief that parent hood isn't beckoning with a nut job you didn't love.

Your in a perfect position now to build your life and make something of it as you can see what happens when you let it get like a bag of shit.

Sort your head out, get a job, get saving and do something productive with yourself and you'll feel a lot better.

[gammamanuk]

Ill see what tommorow birings.

Also want to give a big thanks to banditbitch and sticky and the others that provided useful information and help.

God i feel awful

[queen of string]

make a decision to do it differently from now on. get some decent counselling. Do it differently. millions of people have. Alternatively if your not ready for counselling, buy a self help book from the millions available , just pick the one that appeals to you, adn act on it . Good luck, it is possible but it will take as much effort as doing it wrong does now.
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[anders]

Gamma,

I just read your thread above, it made me cry inside.

Forget the past, this is a lesson, move on, start fresh.

You have been blessed with a life, you can walk talk move, some people don't even get that.

Cheer up. Start thinking about a brighter future.
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[BanditBitch]

[daz|n00by]

Well this is the first time i have posted on this subject and maybe my last,
Gamma from reading all the posts you have made in here one thing seems to come to mind to me m8,
I think you will find that she has had the baby/babies terminated and is trying to come up with a story to avoid telling you this.
If i,m speaking out of place then i,m sorry but after reading you last post, she would have been told all the details of why the baby has been took away and she wouldn't have had a problem telling you about the complications, on the other hand having the baby terminated can be a relatively short process and makes more sense of the times you say she spent in Hospital and the moods she is showing.

I seriously think she has had an abortion and is hoping that you will not find out.

all the best, chin up
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[R4nger]

Get a new job, a good job. Hopefully you will meet new friends in your new good job and get a decent pay packet. It will certainly make you feel better. God knows how you have had 30 jobs in 4 years which averages out at about 1 every 2 months.... JUST HOLD IN THERE!

Build your life back up. It will soon come back.

[Leggy_Girl]

Having just read all 3 pages at once, all i can say is don't give up! If you do then your ex and every other person who has ever trodden you down has won. Start fresh, summon up some strength from deep down and pick yourself up.

From now on think about yourself for once and plan how you're going to get to where you want. It might be hard and take time but stick with it.

As other people in this thread have shown through their kind and helpful posts, you can get help. You can get back on track and be happy again. Just don't give up
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[izzi81]

What I'm going to say is not far off what others have recently said but I just wanted to add my comments too.

Firstly, I also think she's had an abortion. There is *no way* they would just terminate the pregnancies without telling her what is going on. That is just not possible. Think of the lawsuits they are open to, they just decided to take her babies? Absolutely no way. So if the babies are gone, then she decided to take that path. And it sounds like it was the best option for both of you.

Secondly. it seems like you see yourself at rock bottom. Maybe that is where you are, but in that case all you can do is climb from where you are! You are young, you have your whole life ahead of you. It might not feel like that right now, but it's true. If you want to change things, you can. Take things slow, make a plan, work out what you want in life. If you ask me rock bottom would have been having to stick with that girl and try to raise twins at your young ages. This is life giving you a chance to do what you want. Try to work out what you want from your life. Where do you want to be in 10 years? There *is* a way to get to where you want, and there are plenty of people who can help you and give you advice on how to get there.

Just over a year ago I was nearly 29, still living at home, no relationship, with a useless uni degree and no chance of a career in what I had always thought I wanted to do. I was pretty depressed, worrying myself ill. But now, just over a year has passed, and I've got a new career direction, just about to start a job which is the first step on to that career and which pays enough for me to start renting my own 1 bedroom place. Plus I have a lovely boyfriend. Believe me things can turn around quicker than you'd ever expect, you just have to stick with it
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[MarJay]

Gammaman,

From what I can glean, the girl is no good.

You are better off single and away from her. Now this business is done, throw yourself into your work and your projects.

Forget the girl.

Sort your life out.
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[HerbalDayZ]

couldnt be arsed to read every post,But all i will say is Ha you in love,Dont it hurt liek a bitch

I was pretty much the same as you few years ago to find out my ex was preggy altho problem was it was either mine or my best m8ts who she cheated on bcus i had fling week after i met her.

Then to top it off i found out she was going after another best m8 to get the knife stuck in a little more,so i knocked him out told her she was a whore an whent onto her m8 made me feel bit better .

Altho imo the reason you cant stop thinking about her how she is etc is bcus fact is your in love,An guessing prob your 1st proper relation ship .

move on m8 some woman are evil an demented looks liek you found one.Im now engaged with a 2 yr old son an if it wasnt for the fact my ex was a dirty tramp ide have neither of these now
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[-Savage-]

and in english i thin k that reads...... dry up,


serious man, i think she was fucking you around big time, and if she was, i feel sorry for you, and if you need a chat PM me ane il add you to my msn. if not, you are fucking us around, and it gone beyond a joke. either start trying to help yourself, or fuck off,.

PM me if you wnna chat, im a trained councelor and shit lol

good luck man
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[gammamanuk]

Thee is just no real way of describing how i feel at this moment, just woke up and burst out crying at 4 50 in the morning FFS.

She hasn't had an abortion, the baby that in her tube hadnt moved and from what i could get out of her between her deep breaths as she cried more and more is that it wasn't going to work, and while al was still safe the told her abortion is the best bet, otherwise it will end up rupturing and she would probably have severe internal bleeding.

Its just hard for me, they were 2 of me, my 2 babies, now theyre the contents of the NHS's hoover bag or whatever method they use to remove them.

She did not have an abortion, ive seen a completely different side to this girl today, every text has said she wants them back, all 40 odd of them, she has cried all day, she is distraught and feels so guilty and worthless.

The other hardest thing for me is while we were together 8 months, and she spent a good few of that being a lying, cheating, dirty little slag, who enjoyed giving me emotional torment and what not every day i could look at her, and i still loved if not more than yesterday,

She was not the best looking girl in any form, because i never go for looks, and trust me im not a bad looking lad if i say so myself, ive never had problem getting female attention, it was only tonight i had pulled up for 5 minutes and someone offered to feature my car on his pervy website, and 2 young blondes came over and were talking to me but i don't gain interest in it, its just i see the good in people, but some people like her never learn and she wil like me go through her life learning the hard way.

She is back tommorow she doesnt want to see me, but i will, and after that its time to move on because at the rate im going this time next year ill be 6 foot under, i really cannot take much more.

[gammamanuk]

I think shes had an abortion, i really wish i could know the truth.

Was just doing that ' live your life again ' quiz someone posted up, saw that unborn baby and just burst out crying, then my phone rang and it was her, she just won't tell me what they said to her, she is just saying she went in, they said its bad and they got rid of them and she can't have kids anymore.

[BanditBitch]

[gammamanuk]

She said when she went in they told her she had lost them, they put her to sleep and she woke up an hour later, they sent her home later but told her to stay in bed at home. I will see her today, she went to the hospital with a friend of hers who is around 20, ill find out later when i speak to her face to face, she can't ignore me or hang up on me then.

Oh well, ive done last nights washing up, ive cleaned the fridge out, what else is there to do on a Sunday morning?

[BanditBitch]

[BanditBitch]

Actually she may have signed her own consent form, read this:

Gamma.... I have edited the link, cos it was an american one, so the law will be different. Try this one,its for the uk.

https://www.nurseseyesite.nhs.uk/spec_area_paediatric/child_consent.asp

[nrml76]

Have you considered joining the armed forces? It will bring structure, discipline, change of scene and a regular income into your life. You would be able to pay back your debts and get trained in something you are interested in. Getting a regular job would be easier when you come out. It's not everyones cup of tea though, but most people who come out feel that it did them a lot of good.

[gammamanuk]

Ive considered it a number of times, i think what i need is some direction in life and someone to gob off at me when im doing wrong, hmm...