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Johnny GSX-R
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
KidKoala wrote:
Johnny GSX-R wrote:
KidKoala is clearly an 'arse' of vast magnitude, more than likely wet the bed until late teens and and was ridiculed by girls for having a gay haircut.
His real name is 'Rupert' and he wears 'Gola' trainers bought second hand from e-bay, he has bum fluff on his face and spends many hours masturbating to animal porn found on google.

Actually I wear Hi Tek trainers, and I got them from a carboot sale, not eBay. Wouldn't be the first time a copper got their facts horribly wrong, in my experience. Middle Finger


Actually 'I' am right.......its now upto you to prove otherwise.
Show us your Hi-tec's.....go on, dare ya....

I see there was no denial re the other stuff Laughing
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Madman
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I remember riding in Italy on a road wich you were not allowed to overtake, but the police was doing just over the max speed and moved over a bit so I could overtake. Shocked Couldn't believe my luck and the attitude to bikers in this country. Cool
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
beanfeast wrote:
Mister James wrote:

Filtering past a right turn junction is how a lot of people become technically dead.

Very true, but technically not when the traffic can't phsyically move!

Erm, never heard of U-turns? Every night on the Embankment I see cars and taxis doing U-turns mostly without looking or indicating. Sometimes, a biker manages to avoid them, but only too often not, by filtering too fast and too close. If the oncoming lane is empty (as it tends to be in the evenings), use it.

I filter if I feel like it, and won't let the sight of a police vehicle stop me, unless to do so would be taking the mickey. The key is to do it considerately, in a controlled manner and at an appropriate speed. Having a BikeSafe vest, issued by the Metropolitan Police, is not a bad idea, either... Wink

In London, the police tend to tolerate bikes filtering to the very top of the queue, on zigzags, chevrons and solid white lines. Well, I do my riding in the rush hour, so it could be that the tolerance doesn't apply at the weekends or Friday nights when a certain element comes out to play.

I've yet to meet a Central London copper who wouldn't let me get in front of them, especially if they're in a car. Nothing but courtesy from the boys in blue.

I have been told by a bike cop who was attending an accident immediately after lights to go round the traffic on the wrong side of the island, as he saw me patiently waiting in the junction. A car tried to follow me, but got an 'Oi, not you!' from him. Thumbs Up

I suppose it's too much to ask for you, KidKoala, to grow up any time soon, but please do not continue to insult other members of this board, especially those who contribute as much to it and the society as Johnny and the other police members. You've made your point, however invalid, there's no point to continue. In general, we in the UK are lucky to have the police force we do, and on balance, I think bikers get very fair treatment from the traffic coppers (a lot of it depends on your own attitude) on bikes and in cars.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paivi wrote:

I suppose it's too much to ask for you, KidKoala, to grow up any time soon, but please do not continue to insult other members of this board, especially those who contribute as much to it and the society as Johnny and the other police members. You've made your point, however invalid, there's no point to continue. In general, we in the UK are lucky to have the police force we do, and on balance, I think bikers get very fair treatment from the traffic coppers (a lot of it depends on your own attitude) on bikes and in cars.

I suppose it's too much to ask for you to keep your nose out of it? If you read the thread, you'll find it was me who was first personally insulted.

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Paivi
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
KidKoala wrote:
If you read the thread, you'll find it was me who was first personally insulted.

Line one in your first post, with which you opened the original thread:
KidKoala wrote:
What experiences have you had with overtaking/filtering past the pigs?


You had, by then, made it obvious you weren't referring to random farm animals on the road by calling your thread "Overtaking coppers".
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Mister James
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
KidKoala wrote:

Maybe because your experience is working in the prison service? Just perhaps, this might have had some sort of impact on your opinion?


Possibly, if I actually worked in the Prison Service. Once again, jumping to conclusions without the actual facts in place.

I don't factor in the opinions or ideals of my detainees into my own outlook on life, because I have no respect for - or interest in - them.

My comment referred to conversations I have had with colleagues/friends/relations/acquaintances, as I'm sure you were well aware before you attempted to be witty.


Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but unfortunately yours is blatantly biased, and therefore irrelavant to this discussion.

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Think what you like about my personality,


My apologies, up until this comment I didn't realise that I needed your permission!

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this is a message board and I don't take things to heart like you two. lets face it - who doesn't break the law in one way or another?


Who's taking what to heart? I'm just pointing out that your behaviour equates to that of a prime tit, I won't be losing any sleep over it. I tend to challenge beliefs and attitudes that I think are unacceptable, as you claim not to take things to heart, it obviously won't be a problem in the future.

Right about now, I can't think of any laws that I break beyond playing hard and fast with copyrighting legislation.

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OMFGZ!!!1?! I haven't heard that one before, where do you get your ideas from?
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GearboxGeezer
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pigs make people think you a bad man criminal, as criminals ( such as drug dealers or gangsters ) hate the police.... Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've never had a 'bad experience' with the police..

not when I've been stopped in the car (twice)
not when I've called them for various suspicious activity outside my house
not when we were burgled.
not when my jacket and wallet was stolen from work

On all occasions, they have been fine people, and have done their best to help me, and have explained what's been going on.

so, no.. I'd never refer to them as Pigs.. I have too much respect for them to do that.

perhaps I've been lucky, perhaps some of you have been unlucky: as in any walks of life, there are good people and there are some arses, but I doubt very much that the majority of police out there fall into the latter category.

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PostPosted: 17:27 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the term pig should be used in a individual basis. When I see a filthy pig, squating down down behind his radar gun and harrassing people for doing 34 in a remote street in the arsehole end of no where then I feel the term 'pig' is completely justified as he is doing no more than harrassing hard working members of the public to fill the coffers of our authoritarian government.

When I see coppers doing a sterling job on a saturday night then I have a different opinion.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

Yes the phrase "pig" is derogatory, although probably acceptable by many among friends depending on how it is used. Plenty of other nicknames which are not derogatory.

Having said that, a few do deserve the label.

babyyam wrote:
Erm, nothing to do with the Harley Owners Group then? Confused


Seems to predate that by a hell of a long time. Harley Owners Group dates from 1983, long after the term HOG had been used to refer to Harleys.

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PostPosted: 18:54 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hotdog wrote:
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Marjay - You are a complete shit talking PLEBIAN.

Harley's are called HOGS because !!

Harley
Owners
Group

H O G


Well, how come I watched a programme on TV last night which stated the Harley Owners Group started in the early eighties, and that before the war one of the US MCC's carried a small pet pig around the circuit being used to do informal races at a motorcycle rally. This lead to the name Hog to refer to the bikes. I would hazard a guess that they only decided on the name 'group' rather than 'club' because HOC sounds stupid if Harleys are referred to as Hogs anyway. Plus a Hog is the bike, not a member of the group.

Thanks for calling me a plebian, I am certain that one day I might allow my true opinions towards you to be released when I am standing infront of you, rather than over a web forum.

And if you are interested, the programme was called "The secret history of Bikers" and was shown on Sky three at 7pm. The title is misleading because it was really a history of Harley Davidson.

{edit} Surely it should be HDOC?...{edit}
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
All those people that claim Police officer's are fine toward's you if your doing nothing wrong have yet to experience the otehr side in my opinion.

If I walk around my estate with a hood up in any weather and a Police car goes past it will slow down to see what I'm upto, regardless that I havent done anything, it is merely due to the slightly iffy estate I live on.

You do get good and bad in every form of job, however in my experience the Police response has been slow, unhelpful and not very forthcoming, I beleive due to the area.

My family, and most of the people I know who live on the estate, now no longer bother contacting the Police unless it's a very large problem as it isnt worth the hassle.

I should imagine this is a similar story for people all over the country on council estate's.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I always assume that people who use the word 'pig', or 'filth' etc, (in a non-jokey way) , are wearing trackie bottoms, white trainers (possibly Reebok classics), and a baseball cap. They probably hang about near 'offies' pestering people to buy them some cider, or if a little older, they have race-replica peds, or even the magical vauxhall corsa with purple l.e.d's and a bass tube in the boot yeah!

either that or a career criminal.
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either that or a career criminal.

See above.

I've never committed any real crimes nor do I hang about on street corner's or cause a nuisance etc.

Edit: I refer to Police as pig's most of the time, apart from when I may get arrested, ie in their presence. Razz
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Shit what have I started!!! Anyhooo...

I always associate the term as always being used by insecure school kids who want to look the hard man with their peers. But when face to face with the police, butter wouldn't melt in their mouth. Or the classic phrase "quick run the PIGS are here!"...Wow they are brave. Rolling Eyes
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policemen are referred to as pigs because its a descriptive nickname of their behaviour and appearance

if they dont like being referred to as pigs, they can get another job, or develop a thick skin, like the scum that are telemarketers
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 17 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
colin1 wrote:
policemen are referred to as pigs because its a descriptive nickname of their behaviour and appearance

if they dont like being referred to as pigs, they can get another job, or develop a thick skin, like the scum that are telemarketers


You see that's a really shortsighted silly view IMO Smile

Most telemarketers don't actually want to be telemarketers ( pardon my american)

Same as traffic wardens... We all slag em off, but they're doing a job... that's it.

Most cops I have encountered have been at least pretty okay, and most of em actually nice folk.

You go around saying 'Pigs' as a rule, and to be honest you just come across as thick. You might not be, but it's certainly an indication.
Whatever else, we all need to just learn a little respect for others. It doesn't hurt, and ultimately makes you feel better in yourself.

Let;s all just chill and remember why we're reading these forums... Office workers, Telesales, cops, accountants, lorry drivers etc....

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colin1 wrote:
policemen are referred to as pigs because its a descriptive nickname of their behaviour and appearance


Yo bwah, u is dahn wit da omies. Big yasef op, blud.

colin1 wrote:
if they dont like being referred to as pigs, they can get another job


I bet you say that to their faces all the time, eh?
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colin1 wrote:
policemen are referred to as pigs because its a descriptive nickname of their behaviour and appearance

if they dont like being referred to as pigs, they can get another job, or develop a thick skin, like the scum that are telemarketers


Colin, you can be so utterly mind numbingly fucking thick at times. Wtf do the police have to do with telemarketers for christ's sakes...
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 18 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Finglonga wrote:


Might just me being an old Fecker but...

Why are they "PIGS" .......


Wotcha.

As another old git - the term "Pigs" was also used in
George Orwell's "Animal Farm" - don't know which came first, the term or the book.
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PostPosted: 04:15 - 18 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
ram_doom wrote:
colin1 wrote:
policemen are referred to as pigs because its a descriptive nickname of their behaviour and appearance

if they dont like being referred to as pigs, they can get another job, or develop a thick skin, like the scum that are telemarketers


Colin, you can be so utterly mind numbingly fucking thick at times. Wtf do the police have to do with telemarketers for christ's sakes...


you are just stupid

let me explain it for you

telemarketers need a thick skin as they get told to piss off to their face (or at least to the phone). some people cant handle this and so stop being telemarketers.

the only policeman i know has no problem being called a pig, he used to call policeman pigs, and when he went to police training the recruits were refered to as piglets

any policemen who are offended by being called pigs are just taking things too seriously and should develop a thick skin, or they should find a job more suitable to their delicate natures
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What utter shit Colin.

Just because you can take being called a Pig doesn't mean you should. You could call me a shit-faced-cock-master to my face and it wouldn't make me lose a huge amount of sleep, but we'd probably be having a little chat about your attitude.

Referring to the Police as Pigs is spineless and self-defeating. If you actually call them that to their faces they will (to your feeble mind) act the role, whilst if they don't hear you because you only say it when they aren't around, (like most hardened pig-haters) your wit and irony is lost on them.

Whatever happened to being civil and taking the moral high ground? I'm polite towards everyone, even the most obnoxious sex offender at work, because it gives me even more justification and moral outrage if he acts like a dick and I have to pull his limbs off like a giant daddy-long-legs.
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PostPosted: 05:46 - 18 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought the term pig was used for American police. Only ever hear it on TV or on this forum.

Depends entirely on the context whether or not it's insulting.

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Very rarely I call them pigs. Dosnt feel right. But will call them cop/coppers each and everytime.
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