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Annabella
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

heheheheheh LOL@Korn getting all worked up!!

Tin was an absolute STAR!! Though when we went for our shopping trip the faces of some fo the car drivers when Zim and I popped up from the back (we were rolling around) was a picture!

I have a great car, I love it, I can get my violin in it and get to orchestra rehearals in the dry etc etc..... but here is the comparison for me -

I pay exactly the same insurance for my car (a Seat Marbella - think a fiat panda with 903cc) as I did for my beautiful NSR.....hmmmmm which looks, performs the best?? I was NEVER late for work on my bike!! Plus riding is so much more fun!
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:

I frequently go to fill my bike up and I'll have filled up, paid, and ridden off and the guy in the 4x4 next to me is still pumping petrol in. The world is pulling it's hair out because we're running out of oil(petrol) yet if we all rode bikes the remaining supply would probably last us 3x as long.


Dubious. Oil reserves are running low, but it is easy to come up with bio fuel alternatives (such as ethanol). Last I heard these become financially worthwhile at around the $40 a barrel, and we got to over $30 a barrel last year. Added to which oil can be extracted from other sources which add substantially to the proven reserves (about 40 years at current consumption, compared to 20 years reserves about 25 years ago).

Down side for bikes is that compared to cars they are very dirty. No bike would stand a cat in hells chance of passing the emmisions requirements for cars.

robby wrote:
they both have the places - but it would be much better if cars were the minority on the roads and bikes were the majority - say 80% bikes instead of the 10% or whatever it is now.


By vehicle miles bikes there are about 1% bikes compared to cars (something like 4 billion vehicle km by bike and 320 billion vehicle km by car), or by passenger miles a bit over 0.5% by bike. Average number of people in a car is 1.6 (against less than 9 in a bus)

All the best

Keith
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chunkielad
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your knowledge holds no bounds Keith!
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

lunarcreek wrote:
Your knowledge holds no bounds Keith!


Yesterday he actually admitted that on visordown.com there are people who have more tecchie knowledge than him!!! Shocked

I almost collapsed!! Wink
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TiN
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm...maybe I should've gotten one of these for BDB:

https://www.motorcycle-uk.com/Watsonian/trailers.html

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WildGoose
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was reading about the future of fuels quite likely to change to liquid hydrogen

it was either hydrogen or helium, but apparently it performs just as well as petrol

the main problem however is storage, cos it has to be kept at silly temperatures

something like that, i probly should have read it more thoroughly
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Liquid hydrogen is likely, but it is a bugger to store as it is a very small atom (smallest?) and gets out through just about any tiny gap. Added to which you still need to generate the hydrogen, and the easiest way to do that is to split water up which takes a fair bit of electricity. Generating the electricity means using a fair bit of energy so it only makes sense if you get the power from something fashionably clean such as wind or hydroelectric power.

Think helium is basically non flammable.

The other problem is that oxides of nitrogen are a product of the heat of combustion working on the nitrogen and oxygen in the air. Whatever fuel you use you still have to cope with these, either by lowering combustion temp enough to stop them forming (which is what exhaust gas recirculation systems do in most cars) or by shoving a cat (non feline) up the exhaust.

All the best

Keith
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

McJamweasel wrote:
lunarcreek wrote:
Your knowledge holds no bounds Keith!


Yesterday he actually admitted that on visordown.com there are people who have more tecchie knowledge than him!!! Shocked


Plenty of those around Rolling Eyes

All the best

Keith
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Joe Camel
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I have a car ???

yep, its good for towing my bike to the south of france ...he he Cool
ask mcjamweasel, over 700 miles in a day....he was there !! (top navigator actually)

Its a Bright Red Lexus IS200 SE and I love it !!
But I love my shiny zx7r more !!! Twisted Evil
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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 11 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was indeed there and we did do 700 miles in a day. Well, a coupla times actually.
Top navigator?? Well I did get us lost a coupla time but i also got us found again. Cool
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 12 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok alternative fuels:

helium is the smallest atom - 1 proton, 1 neutron, 1 electron. it also only forms groups of 2 unless you ionise it (a bad idea) so the biggest helium molecule you could have would be 2 protons, 2 neutrons, 2 electrons. thats about the size of a helium atom.

carbon has the asvantage of forming chains - ethane or LPG still come out of oil, but they come out the fractional distillation tower higher up than petrol and much higher than diesel.

also alternative energy is not yet viable due to the tradeoff between the energy and money used to produce it compared to the energy generated from 1 ltre of it - LPG is only about half as powerful as petrol for one litre.
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WildGoose
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 12 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooooh

you been hanging out with keith robby, this stuff is catching

A level chemistry by any chance? :lol:
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Phoenix
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 12 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he is doing A-level Chemistry he ought to sue the college.

Hydrogen is the smallest atom, 1 proton and 1 electron.

Helium is 2 Protons, 2 Neutrons and 2 electrons, helium is also chemically inert and is therefore of absolutely no use as a fuel.
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Robby
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 12 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

the important thing is that i was close enough. and in a hurry
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M1ke
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 12 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

That question was on the weakest link a while ago, they also got it wrong Smile

hydrogen is extreamly explosive cause it only has 1 electron in its outer shell... would be a bugger to store and is probably why they dont use it as fuel yet.
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chunkielad
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 13 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

One word


Hindenburg
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Doddmaster
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 13 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

*BOOM*
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Robby
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 13 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasn't the hindenburg full of nazis?

also, that was a cloth or canvas bubble of the stuff, with a cage full of people smoking underneath.

in the last 60 years storage techniques have improved a bit.
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Korn
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 13 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hindenburg actually blew up because the numbskulls painted it using highly flammable paint... bit of static built up and BANG.

(according to Channel 4 anyway Rolling Eyes)
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Doddmaster
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 13 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it was full of Nazis anyway, so who cares how it blew up Laughing
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chunkielad
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 13 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twas full of gas, blew up - went bang - bad example - shoot me!
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 16 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

IM THE GUY WHO STARTED THE SUBECT, JUST CANT REMEMBER PASSWORD.


My polo is an fire place object because it is july 2001 and has 600 miles on it. I would only take it out if it is in zero temptures and the rain. My NSR has never seen rain. it has 14,000 miles on it, not a scratch, or a drop ever, i am very suprised it hasn't blew up because the big bore kit, uprated carbs, filter, arrow pipe and other engine mods have been in since 20 miles.

crash.................
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