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chunkielad
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to agree with Tom - the Americans get involved when it suits them. Britains fighting force may not be the largest, but it is the best. Our Armed Forces (which includes the Ghurkas) are without doubt the toughest and most efficient fighting force in the world. The only people more determined are the Afghans but they ran away from our Marines!!!

What needs to be understood is that the pot smoking yanks who act all bravado and courage only ever kill allied troops and when it all goes wrong, they ask us for help.

Vietnam - we didn't help - they lost
Gulf, They killed Allied Troops - WE won the war with assistance from other countries.
Fighting Bin Laden, Our troups are front line and kicking ass.

I hate Britain, how it's run and what it stands for - if I could live anywhere else, I would but there is one thing this nation has to be proud of and that's the lads who stand up for our rights and put their lives on the line!
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zaknafien




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PostPosted: 01:05 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont forget

american soldier without his toys = useless
british soldier without toys = still damn deadly

american troops cant function without modern technology coz they use it too much and dont train in the basics enough.
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaknafien wrote:

british soldier without toys = still damn deadly


Which is handy given the utter shiteness of the SA80 Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those two years before the US joined the war, they weren't just laying about watching us get slaughtered. War is always a bad thing, one that should be avoided - no-one can disagree with me there. So while they weren't physically fighting with us, they were providing up-to-date American weaponry and ammunition, which was good cuz our factories couldn't cope with the demand.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree about the SA80. It doesnt like water, which makes it useless somewhere with rain. It really doesnt like sand (as our good soldiers found out in Iraq) which means it is shite in a desert.

So, lets just hope that if they are ever needed, it is somewhere dry and without sand.
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

CALL ME EXTREMIST, ...
I SAY....NUKE THE EFFIN LOT OF EM !!!!
IF YOU ARE GOING TO PLAY WAR, DONT PLAY AT IT, DO IT.

LET THE WORLD KNOW, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PISS PEOPLE OFF, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENSES.

AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS IT, THE RUSSIANS WONT DO SHIT.
MY POLITICS...

SOMEWHERE TO THE RIGHT OF GENGIS KAHN.

NO MORE "ASYLUM SEEKERS" SORRY, WANTING WANTING COUNCIL HOUSE. WANTING WANTING SOCIAL SECURITY, THEN THEY START RIOTS...BASTARDS..

NO JOB...FUCK OFF.
NO ENGLISH RELATIVES..FUCK OFF.
NO REASON TO BE HERE OTHER THAN YOUR OWN COUNTRY IS SHITE, SORRY, NOT OUR PROBLEM, FUCK OFF.

WORKS FOR AUSTRAILIA ?? THINK ABOUT IT.
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andrew
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

zx7ruk wrote:
WORKS FOR AUSTRAILIA ?? THINK ABOUT IT.


Actully Australias asylum seeker problems are as bad as ours.
I do agree with you though, our country is struggling enough with the current population without letting more people in to cripple it further.

As for WWII your right America didnt get involved until there was an attack on them, but i cannot imagine them letting a complete collapse of Britian to take place, if Britian *had* fallen im pretty sure they would have stepped in. And the fact that so many of their men died fighting alongside ours deserves some fuc*ing respect!!

Oh and zaknafien to say US soilders are useless is shite.

Tom if you read what i said "The Americans have been there when this country was close to defeat so start showing them some respect ffs."
I think you'll find i dont need to pay attention in history seeing as i didnt say they were involved in the war from the beginning.

McJamweasel i dont see your point in quoting percentages obviously our percentage of killed soilders would be higher, we had a smaller army!

Demonic69 they faught very few Germans?, the fact that they faught and were killed fighting Germans alongside us is enough m8
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zaknafien




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PostPosted: 12:31 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you took all an american soldiers toys away from him he'd be pretty much useless since they have stopped using basic survival skills in basic training such as map reading, since they all get GPS systems now, same with hunting for food etc.

The basic training regime for them now is so basic it should have the word "training" taken away.
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andrew
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaknafien wrote:
The basic training regime for them now is so basic it should have the word "training" taken away.


Erm..... ok

I suppose you would rather them be fighting with swiss army knives than use all the equipment they have available. We'll see how critical you are when its U.S soilders defending you against people like Suddam Hussain.
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zaknafien




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PostPosted: 12:46 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

no im just saying if they needed to they wouldnt know how.

and besides im not really interested if they are fighting coz for 1 they arent fighting for me and 2 who cares about saddam anyway i havent heard a peep from him in years?
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andrew
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly *you* havent heard from him, but im sure Western governments have heard quite a bit, the mans a nutcase and if he did decide to do something, the very soilders you are calling useless would be asked to fight to protect people like me and *you*.....
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

he hasent made a peep until this afghan thing all started and everyone decided to say "lets go tackle saddam too"

he has no facilities to attack anyone except on his borders and more than likely never will due to his economy being in ruin.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there you go again *you* dont think he has any weapons, what makes you think he doesnt have the weapons to attack anyone....??

And the economy in Iraq might be in ruin money wont stand in the way of him getting the weapons he wants, the economy over there is in ruins but im sure he has a nice pile of cash/gold/oil tucked away somewhere to fund any attack he might have planned.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

funny he hasent done that in the past few years then?

i wonder why that is.... oh yeah coz he cant.
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andrew
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol the FBI and other various intellegence agencies knew about Bin Laden for years do you think they expected what happend?? erm no! And you didnt actully challenge my point of him having the money and ability to aquire any weapon he wants, if you think Hussein *cant* get weapons of mass destruction and wouldnt use them if he did, then you are very naive.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

if he had the money he would have aquired them ages ago, but he doesnt, when he did have the money he tried everything. including buying a super gun from us. luckily it didnt work.

if he was THAT much of a threat he would have been gone long ago, bin laden wasent thought to have been a threat because he couldnt afford large scale military weapons. so he used other means.

Saddam is a military man and wouldnt resort to those kind of tactics he'd wait until he could afford the weapons.
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andrew
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaknafien wrote:
bin laden wasent thought to have been a threat because he couldnt afford large scale military weapons. so he used other means.


I think you'll find Bin Laden had more than enough money to buy a few weapons of mass destruction, youve just got to look at how effective what he did was with the amount it would have cost, nicking an aeroplane getting one of your muppets to fly it into a building doesnt cost that much.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

he has the money to "buy" weapons of mass destruction but not the facilitys to actually use them which cost a hell of a lot more than the weapons themselves.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

/me yawns! Confused
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CALL ME EXTREMIST, ...
I SAY....NUKE THE EFFIN LOT OF EM !!!!
IF YOU ARE GOING TO PLAY WAR, DONT PLAY AT IT, DO IT.


Well the 911 lot were not fucking around when they flew planes into those towers. So you shouldnt have any complaints about them.

This particular thread is full of you arm chair commando's, you cant make statements like the one made by the retard quoted above if your not even inthe military and dont even know what war is about.

I've been there, read the intel reports, think i'm better qualified to give judgmets regarding what to do with Saddam.

We go out there everyday put our lives on the line for you wankers, and get no fucking recognition or thanks from you shites, who sit around complaining that anything said against the yanks is anti-american blah blah blah.

Its fine to play arm chair commando, but non of you have the balls to join the forces though do you??

Its people like you that are going to turn the eastern world against us, and when they strike here, remember good ol Tom... .

Well take care, flying out this week, defence of the realm and all that.
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Doddmaster
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

My nextdoor neighbour is a Warrant Officer in the RAF, and I had a place in the RAF when I left school (that I later turned down) and I have been told a bit about Saddam.

Apparently, the reason we haven't been to war with him since '91 is because his conventional army is quite strong, and there could be many casualties.

Iraq is not a poor country at all, in fact it is a very wealthy country, a large percentage of the worlds oil comes from there.

There is also a very large possibility that he has some "dirty" mass-destructive weapons, not likely to be nuclear, but chemical.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew wrote:
i dont see your point in quoting percentages obviously our percentage of killed soilders would be higher, we had a smaller army!

While you're retaking history i would think about doing basic maths too Wink
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

if we had a smaller army and lost the same amount of soldiers then our percentage loss would be higher

so what he said was correct

so what you on about Guest
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom- you been in a war?
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 18 Aug 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom... wrote:
This particular thread is full of you arm chair commando's, you cant make statements like the one made by the retard quoted above if your not even inthe military and dont even know what war is about.

Its fine to play arm chair commando, but non of you have the balls to join the forces though do you??

Full of Armchair commandos huh? None of us having the balls to join the forces?
Check you facts Tom, I have been there, seen it and done it (I may even have a few T-Shirts, and definately have the medal). I've been shot at and I've been mortared (we were on peace keeping duty!).
So think before you start spouting your 'I know better' crap, because there is always someone who knows more! Evil or Very Mad
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