This new particle-accelerator thing they're about to turn on

[igiyf]

may be funded by a rockefella type front.

[ColdInsomnia]

To avoid any confusion:

All that is going to happen on the 10th of September is the first attempt to circulate a beam.

The first high-energy collision isn't scheduled to be attempted until after the official unveiling of the LHC on the 21st October.

So I'm afraid you'll have to put up with all this 'Doomsday' nonsense for at least another month yet.
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[lukamon]

damnit insomnia you got there first!

tomorrow, the thing wont even get up to energy levels exceeded by other accelerators, its a test run.

awesome thing when you read about it, its at ~ 271 deg c so the magnets are cold enough to become superconducting, this makes it the coldest ring in the universe, as long as an alien civilisation hasnt built one already, of course its also the most complete vaccuum ever, since the ring has to be empty of ANY particles.
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[ColdInsomnia]

Sorry luc


Also, to put some of your minds at ease (In case any of you think the Earth is going to be sucked into a black hole);

When a star begins to die, it expands and becomes.. well.. huge. Once it's run out of energy, the entire mass of the star is pulled into it's centre by the force of gravity. A small star, like our sun, will be condensed into a small (relatively), but incredibly dense celestial body known as a white dwarf.

If the star has enough mass, the sheer force of the implosion of the star creates something so dense in such a small area of space that it becomes what we call a black hole.

So, to summarise, simply put if we wanted to create a black hole capable of sustaining itself, we'd need to be messing with quantities of mass that exceed that of our sun.. Which clearly, we aren't
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[pa_broon74]

Indeed...

You'd need in excess of 9 times our sun's mass to do it... Only remember that from astronomy club, plus type1 and type 2 supernova... Type 1 I think forms new nebulae and type 2 tend to be more massive and collapse in on themselves...

I remember something about the Chandrasekhar limit but it escapes me...

This chat about it being the coldest ring and the most complete manmade vacuum makes it sound like a household appliance, it'll do the sitting room carpet as it chills your beer...

I wonder if it plays CD's??


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[Fawbish]

Nope, but it could fire a CD around the ring at 266 million mph

HTH
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[Moonie]

Really haven't got time to read all that, but afterwards it can be used in the JET project, which with enough development could realistically solve all our energy problems.

So Hetz the thing you said about why aren't they finding new options, they are, eventually

I would like to add I don't think that this is why they funded the LHC, but it is useful.
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