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PostPosted: 21:28 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
D O G wrote:
That weave looks sweeeeet. Drooling

Such a shame about the external cables


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PostPosted: 21:29 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is that the same frame as the Ribble R172 just rebranded? Looks v similar around the steam and top tube.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
Is that the same frame as the Ribble R172 just rebranded? Looks v similar around the steam and top tube.

Wouldn't surprise me, most frames are built in the same factories these days. Only a few actual frame manufacturers left.

AFAIK Giant are the largest, they also make the Trek and Specialized frames.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
D O G wrote:
That weave looks sweeeeet. Drooling

Such a shame about the external cables


Just seen your strapline. To have the cables hidden with a similar spec to the one I've got would've been another £600.

For £600 (the cost of our last fortnight in Mallorca), I'll have cables on show thanks! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know, I know, it really makes no difference. I know.

But it looks nice. Razz
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
JonB wrote:
sickpup wrote:
You shouldn't clamp a carbon frame, always clamp the seat post.

This.

If you absolutely must clamp the frame, then wrap something real soft between the clamp and the frame.


It's not clamped, it's just resting on the bottom part.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
carlosthejackal wrote:


It's not clamped, it's just resting on the bottom part.

Oh.

You can rest it all you like then. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
JonB wrote:


Basically if you crash any bicycle you should have the frame checked over, not just Carbon. On paper it is the strongest material, unless hit with forces it is not designed to with-stand aka crashing into a car.


A good benefit of carbon is that it doesn't bend, with steel and aluminium you can bend one slightly to affect it that may be difficult to see.

Carbon will just break if hit beyond it's maximum or will crack, meaning it should be fairly simple to check it yourself after an accident.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mondeo Man wrote:
complete waste of money.

Probably no better than my £150 Halycon.

The things people waste their money on.


Dry sense of humour or troll?
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
carlosthejackal wrote:
It's not clamped, it's just resting on the bottom part.


Shouldn't do that either.

You need to limit any possible points of pressure.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Drew wrote:


Don't mess with Mondeo, he is an athlete.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=252521&highlight=minutes

He averages 25mph over a distance of 5 miles on a £100 old mountain bike Wink


Laughing Laughing


That was only when he was "ctually competiting"
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
PhilDawson8270 wrote:

A good benefit of carbon is that it doesn't bend, with steel and aluminium you can bend one slightly to affect it that may be difficult to see.


But you can also bend it back again.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 19 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mondeo Man wrote:
complete waste of money.

Probably no better than my £150 Halycon.

The things people waste their money on.


The things people waste their breath on. Do yourself a favour and just don't bother any more...
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 20 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
JonB wrote:
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That is a nice bike....Jealous.

I'm very tempted to get one but knowing how clumsy I am I'm wondering if I should just stick to steel or pay more and go for the Plant X Ti frame... either way, I'd have to persuade SWMBO and then worry about leaving it locked up anywhere in London both of which would take a little of the enjoyment out of it I think.

Are you telling me steel doesn't dent if hit the wrong way?

Search google for Titanium frame failures. Lots of known problems around the chain stay area. Basically it comes apart. I suppose a lifetime warranty makes up for that???

Basically if you crash any bicycle you should have the frame checked over, not just Carbon. On paper it is the strongest material, unless hit with forces it is not designed to with-stand aka crashing into a car.

For the record I have crashed a carbon framed bike on ice, no cracks after careful inspection and has done a further 6,000 trouble free miles.

Crashability should not be the criteria when deciding on frame material. My next bike is going to be a steel bike, but only because I want a light tourer to do LEJOG, bit more comfortable and forgiving on longer rides, mounts for a rack and proper mudguard eyelets. Thumbs Up


No, every type of material can have breaking issues when it comes to proper crashes and normal wear and tear, I was thinking more on the accidental knock it over outside the pub kind of damage. I have a big steel dawes galaxy and a heavy alu rockhopper comp both of which handle that kind of drop well but a friend dropped his carbon ribble and put a big hole in it. I doubt that a Ti frame would do that... although if the frame had a lifetime warranty that would probably help ease my worries. I'll need to ride both options before I spunk over a grand on a bike though, need to make sure it is comfortable and rigid enough.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 20 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've chucked my carbon focus on the deck in ice hard, it has probably fallen over 10+ times and it generally takes a fair amount of abuse, yet I have had over 15,000km trouble free on it.

A chap I know has just retired a carbon Bianchi frame after 100,000km cause a hairline crack is starting to show under the bottom bracket. Still not a bad life expectancy.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 20 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why is carbon not a suitable material for bicycles, yet is more than suitable for cars and bikes?
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 20 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Carbon is plenty suitable for bikes as evidenced by the huge amount of carbon bikes everywhere.

Variations in manufacture can clearly make one bike more susceptible to getting broken due to a seemingly inconsequential knock though and stiffness of the frame can be down to how many layers of carbon the manufacturer has used. I'm not saying carbon isn't right for what I want or what anyone else wants I just haven't ridden it much and the one person I know who let me ride his bike had the same bike shatter outside a pub when the wind blew it over (this was about 2 years ago) so question the build quality of the cheaper carbon bikes and intuitively think that a metal bike may be more durable. Although as mentioned before Ti bikes fail too....

Anyway - enough of thread hijacking - OP's bike is lush looking Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 22 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Radis wrote:

Anyway - enough of thread hijacking - OP's bike is lush looking Thumbs Up


Love you too. XXX
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Lush, I'd have bought an N2A if I didn't live so far from Planet X's stores. Not going to spend that kind of money out on a bike without being sure It'll suit me first!

My christmas present to myself: Wink

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PostPosted: 01:42 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice, another Planet X. Looks great mate. I got mine for free; full carbon, dura ace levers and the rest ultegra!
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
treeno wrote:
I got mine for free


Care to elaborate? Smile
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
PhilDawson8270 wrote:
treeno wrote:
I got mine for free


Care to elaborate? Smile


Got a top uncle who decided he'd get into cycling, spent a ton on this brand new Planet X, rode it once and then left it sitting at home for 6 months. He gave it to me a couple of years back for doing well in my A-levels and getting into uni. Laughing
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