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TomReilly
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
rhys1005 wrote:
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Chatting shit?

What benefit would I get out of that? I'm not trying to brag, his designs are used world wide and he's been in the Engineering industry for longer than you've been alive, times 2

But Hi, stop chatting out your ass and just enjoy Thumbs Up


No need to get butt hurt, Tom.

What is name of said person?


Jeff we called him, I'll find out his last name when someone comes upstairs (in work, they have worked with him too)
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 08 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
OP didn't deliver as expected.


I'm dissapointed in you Tom, i truley am dissapointed.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
rhys1005 wrote:
OP didn't deliver as expected.


I'm dissapointed in you Tom, i truley am dissapointed.


Have I missed something? What's the reason behind you being a total prick towards OP?

Tom, keep doing what you're doing if you think it's the right way to go, good luck with it.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
rhys1005 wrote:
OP didn't deliver, as expected.


I'm disappointed in you Tom, I truly am disappointed.


FTFY, could also be worded better Whistle

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PostPosted: 10:17 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tom, keep doing what you're doing if you think it's the right way to go, good luck with it.

There was a kid who posted a few times on here that was probably given that advice at some point.
He certainly took that attitude.

He died when his 50cc bike with a 500cc engine hit a tree.
The frame which he had many times been told he needed to strengthen was broken in half.
Can't tell if that was the cause or result.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shocked

Did not know that, holy shit Neutral
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
It was spike from aprilia forum. He put a CRF 450 engine in to a RX 50 frame. Pale

G does make a good point, while most of us get lucky on our mistakes a loose chain could be then end of you. Got to treat your bike with respect Smile

Might have to start thinking like that too. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 11 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
Lee Wright wrote:


Tom, keep doing what you're doing if you think it's the right way to go, good luck with it.

There was a kid who posted a few times on here that was probably given that advice at some point.
He certainly took that attitude.

He died when his 50cc bike with a 500cc engine hit a tree.
The frame which he had many times been told he needed to strengthen was broken in half.
Can't tell if that was the cause or result.


Now I see where you're coming from but I don't think I would have made the same comment in that case. It's just nice to see someone learning to repair and maintain their own gear, I know I couldn't afford to pay anyone to maintain my vehicles and I'm sure I have a damn site more money coming in than OP. We all start somewhere, from small acorns etc.

I think the part that bothers me more than anything is the shit attitudes that people adopt to try and fit in here.

In an unrelated note, do you know where I can pick rotax parts up from? Got an old Can-Am with a 406 in that needs a kick start return spring and inlet rubber Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
As bad as that is, or how stuborn I am, I wont be going over 125cc till I'm 19 Smile
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
It was a CR500 engine and a quick google tells me it was a Derbi.
This is one of the last of a bike class that was so powerful that the professional racers were actually faster on a smaller bike*.
This engine was also well known to vibrate stuff apart.
The ironic thing is that a proper dirt bike chassis is very light and is an ideal place to house such an engine Smile.

However, my point was about the concept not the semantics.
"Well, just get what you like" also annoys me. That's right - ignore all the people who have made the same mistakes as you're about to and waste your money like they did because it's your current fancy!

I'm not sure who was actually telling him not to do what he was doing?

The main point of contention seemed to be over his mentor and the rather grandiose claims.

And not specifically for rotax parts, I'm afraid.

*Ok, it kinda happened again with the new KTM350.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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you're about to and waste your money like they did because it's your current fancy!


Waste my money how? Do you mean just trying to do up my Chinese bike or?
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
That was another similar concept that annoys me and not directed at you.
Though, as it goes, spending lots of money doing up a Chinese bike is a bit foolish, I'd suggest - but I don't know if you're spending lots of money doing it.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spent quite a bit on it like, and I know myself its foolish but I can't see myself saving the money for a Jap bike
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
TomReilly wrote:
Spent quite a bit on it like, and I know myself its foolish but I can't see myself saving the money for a Jap bike


Err.. how much was the bike and all the bits you've bought?

I have sitting in my parents front garden, a chinky bike that was bought for £50, all it needed was a throttle cable.

Replaced, doesn't need an MOT yet, tax is £17 and its ready to ride. My brother is using it.

That is a chinese bike, £50 won't last long.

My Jap £650 bike has lasted 20k with probably... £50 spent on it.

Buying the right bike to begin with will keep overall costs low.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
£450 for the bike

Battery
Indicators
Chain
Sprocket(s)
Bulbs
Brake Fluid
Oil

I think thats it...
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ouch, initial cost of bike is mid 90's jap bike cash Sad
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Well I can't afford a nice bike so I decided to get a cheap one and do it up, I've learned a lot in the process and understand it alot better, surley that will be very useful for when I get a bigger bike in the future, plus I'm 17 and legally not allowed to get a bigger engine.

Plus my bikes Japanese, found out recently by examining the engine Smile


This is exactly the way to do things and is what more people starting biking early on should do. I see so many people (including one of my friends) who have gone out and spent nearly 4 grand on a brand new KTM Duke 125 or something of the like only for it to fall apart because it's a POS. In my mind the only way to do it is to go out and buy a CG or something else cheap and learn from it.

A year ago I bought a CG for £575. It needed a carb overhaul, new chain and sprockets, new clutch plates and springs and new brake shoes and since then (actually through fault of my own) a new barrel, piston, rings and valves. Having no mechanical experience before then and armed with a Haynes manual and BCF, I changed all of those things myself and probably spent well under £200 doing so. Not only did I save myself a shit ton of money, I gained the experience doing so. My year insurance is about to expire so I can now sell that beautiful CG and move up to a bigger bike. 125's are nothing more than stepping stones so why spend more than you need on one?
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paddy you're right, but bear in mind this guy is 17 and I assume he's just after something to ride on until he can get a bigger bike at 19. If I could go back and buy a first bike again I'd get something even more broken purely to learn more.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
treeno wrote:
Paddy you're right, but bear in mind this guy is 17 and I assume he's just after something to ride on until he can get a bigger bike at 19. If I could go back and buy a first bike again I'd get something even more broken purely to learn more.


At 17 I had a £600 2001 Honda Cityfly... because it was Honda.

I seized an engine, I replaced the engine.
My brakes seized, I rebuilt the caliper.

I'd rather take apart a Jap bike than a Chinaland bike... I know it will work after, you know?

OP, get bored, buy my Varadero for £700, have zero problems.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 12 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paddy. wrote:
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Paddy you're right, but bear in mind this guy is 17 and I assume he's just after something to ride on until he can get a bigger bike at 19. If I could go back and buy a first bike again I'd get something even more broken purely to learn more.


At 17 I had a £600 2001 Honda Cityfly... because it was Honda.

I seized an engine, I replaced the engine.
My brakes seized, I rebuilt the caliper.

I'd rather take apart a Jap bike than a Chinaland bike... I know it will work after, you know?

OP, get bored, buy my Varadero for £700, have zero problems.


Any bike will work after you take it apart and do whatever repairs you need, the question is for how long? If you're on a budget as the OP is, it's quite likely whatever parts he buys will be cheaper pattern parts anyway, so whether he puts them in a cheap Chinese bike or a Jap bike, he probably won't see the difference in the time he owns it.

How comes you're selling?
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PostPosted: 08:10 - 13 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would happily buy another bike right away when I got the money Smile
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 13 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
treeno wrote:
Any bike will work after you take it apart and do whatever repairs you need, the question is for how long? If you're on a budget as the OP is, it's quite likely whatever parts he buys will be cheaper pattern parts anyway, so whether he puts them in a cheap Chinese bike or a Jap bike, he probably won't see the difference in the time he owns it.

How comes you're selling?


I'm on a budget, probably tighter than OP too Laughing

Selling because I have far too many bikes, I have another work horse. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 13 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Check you inbox Paddy, sent you a message but it's sitting in my outbox so no idea if you've got it
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 13 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nope, not got one from you buddy.

Just email me if its easier, my username minus the dot at apple-twist.co.uk Wink
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