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 Ste Not Work Safe

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 Posted: 14:57 - 20 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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£4k is an expensive bike!!
tintin, there is a difference surely between having the money and being able to spend it on a nice a nice expensive bike but not being able to afford to repair it easily if you damage it to being able to afford an expensive bike and repair it or replace it as often as needed?
It's not people saying they ride all the time thinking they're going to crash, it's being able and willing to push the bike further as you're not as worried about the financially impact if you do crash it. This could be something as simple as being more happy about taking it out in the rain, or something like being more willing to learn stunts on it.
Does make more sense to have a bike you want to ride rather than one for the posing value and resale value. Was good at the weekend seeing at the Ace Cafe someone doing lots of very impressive stunts quite happily on a new 04 R1 and it got a lot more attention and people impressed than the overly tarted up one parked up hoping for people to be impressed by it.  |
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| Claud 14.7 to 1 |
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 Claud 14.7 to 1 World Chat Champion

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| Phoenix wrote: | Don't know about you but i'd call 4K an expensive bike! Have to be worth less than £1500 for me not to care too greatly about crashing it, and even then I probably still would. |
Yeah i suppose it depends on your income. I have 0 income so im looking after my cbr well, becasue i need it to last. lol, its only worth about 1500.
£3,000 can get you an excellent bike, which will go faster, (both in the straights and round bends) than you can handle so why pay more, unless you have serious money to burn? I'd rather save the extra money, between an expensive bike and a cheaper one. They both would do the same thing really well. Only one might look a bit better
See what i mean? I wonder how many people here can out-ride a srad gixxer, or 918 blade... You just have to buy one in good condition, which should not be too hard.
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They're expensive, impractical, cop magnet death traps
But they sure are absolutely fucking fantastic fun
(when the roads are clear, the cops aren't around and it's not raining) ____________________ 3516 Miles, 11 Countries |
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I think it all comes down to spending within your means.
I've never understood people who spend £x on a bike and then can't afford to maintain it or even run it. Your saving or your loan repayments or whatever should never leave you scrounging cash for petrol or leaving a knackered chain on your bike cos you can't afford a new one.
Nobody wants to throw their bike down a road, but I think that the 'investment' can weigh on some people's minds, as can other considerations like it being your only form of transport. Maybe this is good if it stops you doing silly things or maybe it stops you having fun.
My bike was £4k. When I first got it, I wrapped it in cotton wool - it was the most expensive thing I'd ever bought and I was damned if anything was going to happen to it. That wore off. I'm not a bike abuser, but I look at it this way - I spent four thousand pounds on that pile of metal and plastic and I'm damn well going to get something out of it. If I should crash it, I'll pay to fix it. I'd rather not have to, but if I'd wanted something to just stand around and look pretty, I'd have bought a sculpture. These days, my caution stems from a desire not to hurt *myself* rather than not to stack the bike.
In summary... I think you have more fun if you can afford to do some damage.  |
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 Posted: 15:47 - 20 Aug 2004 Post subject: Synaptyx.... Fazer or SV? |
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One of my brothers has just got rid of an SV (faired version), and my other brother currently has a fazer. I had to borrow both when some tw4t 4cked up my Triumph whilst trying to nick it. Out of the two, the Fazer is the better riding position, really comfy over distance, and is soooo easy to ride fast. It just does everything for you, helping you out of situations that would otherwise put you on your @rse. The finish has held up well, and with a micron on it sounds great, good for pillion and luggage too. The Sv requires a little more commitment, and the riding position reflects this (can't help you with the unfaired one i'm afraid). While slower than the Fazer, the engine is a absolute 4cking riot, with so much low down grunt it's hilarious. This one had an Art can on it, and you couldn't help but keep opening it up just to hear it roar. Because of the nature of the engine, it's not terribly forgiving if you're in the wrong gear (first bike i've stalled in 10 years). The handling and position are fine at speed but around town I found it to be a bit af a pain in the @rse (and back, and arms). ____________________ I was only doing what it said on my licence officer....
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You all need a Bros.
If I stacked mine, It'd probably improve the thing.  ____________________ Gallery |
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Do you really all ride thinking I'm going to crash? OR if you crash a lot anyway then you probably shouldn't be riding a bike...
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Nope. But the reason I like riding bikes is that you can push them and be to some degrees 'on their limits', while you'll probably never achieve this on the road, most you are still going to be pushing limits occasionaly.
Whether it's yours or the bikes limits, if you are 'pushing it a bit', which is what gives most people the feeling of satisfaction from their bikes, then things can always go wrong.
The way I see it, I might as well be in a car if I'm just gonna 'cruise' along... the bike is for fun .
It means you don't have that naggin fear in the back of your mind wondering if you should actually go for it or sit back. Especially on track days.
Andy99:
For the price of a new r6 you pretty much could get one of each.
I have the following bikes:
zx9r: £2250, was a race bike, should soon have a MOT, does have gear box probs
r6: £2650 track bike, pretty standard, could be put back on the road if I wanted.
dr600: £600 for commuting and the odd wheelie (does need a new coil)
rs250: £1190 for fun road riding.
Hopefully the zx9 and dr will both be sorted soon, at least for general road use, pretty soon, have been very short of money recently.
| Quote: | we pays our money and buy what makes us smile. |
Riding bikes makes me smile, I can't see what it look like when I'm riding so I pay for the riding experience rather than the looks or 'newness'. |
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I don't understand why a crashed SV is better than a crashed anything else? They're awfully underpowered for a wheelie machine (around 70bhp claimed), not torquey at all and just a bit boring. Also they're probably no cheaper than a crash damaged Blade, Exup or anything proper sporty.
Fairly light Damaged Blade for £1850? https://www.cheshiremotorcyclesalvage.com/Superbikes1.htm
Easy Fix RF900 (135bhp claimed) £1450.
There are more cheap damaged superbikes than SV's etc because SV's are boring  ____________________ Back on a Blade. Just feels so right. |
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just because some of us have to compensate for lack of skill  ____________________ Back on a Blade. Just feels so right. |
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Hi
Non sports bikes aint so bad
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Riteous apes dude!
There is a lot to be said for riding about on that style of thing. There is no pressure to 'hammer' it, you just enjoy the road and the freedom of being on it. If you see a sports bike coming up behind you, all you need worry about is if your shades are on straight and if the fork in your beard is blowing evenly over both shoulders...and if there are too many flies stuck in your teeth from grinning.
I garauntee that if I were to park my bobber rat jawa anywhere there are bikers and stood next to it, I would spend all day with people coming up and asking me about it then walking away chuckling and shaking their head.
Be different, stand out from the crowd and enjoy the riding, whatever you ride. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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cool bike BTBv
i think it comes down to memories...
some of the best mortorcycling memories i have come down from when i couldnt afford much ( still cant really) so relied on cheaper bikes..
once you reach more £sd you worry more re value, paint, bike in general, etc and fun goes out..
ah the old days, cans of dulux for a colour scheme, club hammers for a toolkit
and a mars bar was 6 pence ____________________ "still no idea where poohsticks bridge is"
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If I wanted to get from A to B in a leisurely fashion and get noticed by everyone while enjoying the 'freedom' of the road, I'd paint my Passat estate bright pink (don't get any ideas Kev, Laura.)
However as I prefer riding I go for a bike with performance rather than erm, 'style'. I ride for the expereince, or to get to B quicker than in the car.
Personally, while I admit I have occasionaly done stunts infront of the public in general (for the same tarty feelings as those that make you put some rather impractical, I presume, bars on your bike) I make sure that I'm way within in my skills, so I'm not endangering anyone.
Whatever makes you happy, I suppose . |
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You should do what I did.
Let some other muppet buy a shiny sportsbike, then crash it and wipe the value off. Then you buy it cheap and have great fun on the thing without worrying about dropping it cos its already about as dented as it can be!  ____________________ BCF: Be yourself, just don't be an arse. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 21 years, 80 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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