Halfords not seling these yet..?

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Basically, you'll price them off cycling. Even parks, as public places, are subject to the road traffic act.

The tow path my kids (including teh 6 year old) would also be considered a public place.

Do you know how much it costs to ride on a private off road place?

Where would you expect them to learn to ride the damn things in the first place?

Quite frankly it's one of the most rediculous thing I've ever heard.
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[Ste]

[Nobby the Bastard]

How do you propose to stop kids from running into the road as well? Thats probably a bigger cause of death and injury.
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[chickenstrip]

[chickenstrip]

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Ah, but how many were cycling at the time?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

[ThunderGuts]

My observations from around Manchester (both the city and the 'burbs) are the lunatic / soon-to-be-dead cyclists (use the term loosely) are usually in their 20s and probably know better, just choose not to behave that way. I very rarely see kids cycling dangerously as they spend most of their time cycling in residential cul-de-sacs, alleyways, parks etc.. rather than hooning down the A6 ignoring red lights or flying across Piccadilly Gardens with headphones on.

I think cyclists generally fall into a few categories;

a) Cautious and obedient cyclists (who are generally afraid to cycle in a lot of places, so you don't see them that often)

b) Confident and obedient cyclists (spot them if you look for them, but generally are not noticeable along with most other road users who are obedient - you forget them quickly)

c) Confident and wreckless cyclists (these are the ones who shoot across red lights and are probably the greatest direct danger to others)

d) Confident and clueless cyclists (these are actually a smaller group I'd argue, those who genuinely don't have a clue)

Further training would benefit groups a) by teaching them to be more confident and group d) by teaching the rules of the road. Group b) are in a good place already, group c) won't listen and probably will only respond to enforcement which in the current climate, won't happen.

My opinion is a lot of the "cycle problems" we have actually have the same root cause as the reason we have a lot of "car driver problems"; people can get away with not following the rules of the road. This is what needs clamping down on.
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[Ste]

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Okay, removing child cyclists from the road will hardly affect the rta figures for children.

Removing cars from the road< conversely, willl significantly affect them.

Before you suggest it would not be a proportionate response, I feel much the same about stopping kids riding cycles.
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[chickenstrip]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[chickenstrip]

[Nobby the Bastard]

How am I supposed to get to the tea and buscuits without legs?
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[chickenstrip]

You didn't get the previous memo? Due to budget cuts, no more tea and biscuits. So that's another problem solved
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[Ste]

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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[RhynoCZ]

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