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Well, I've stopped to help in the past, but these days I think help isn't that helpful, for the helper or the helpee. If someone stops to help you, it reduces your ability to think clearly and solve the problem and get yourself out of the situation. If your bike is broken you've got options. You have your phone to call for recovery, you have your tools, and you can try different things. If you don't have anything, you can try hiding the bike somewhere and taking a walk to the next town or village.
I saw a post on Nextdoor recently where someone was warning others about someone knocking on their door. In the daytime. This is absolutely for real. Not trying to hide himself, just knocking and calling out to see if anyone was there, and he even checked around the neighbours (you could see all this from the very clear doorbell camera footage posted by the homeowner). So why the warning? Well, he was a man of about 50, he looked a bit rough (didn't look obviously homeless though) and it was a bad part of town.
What if that man needed help (e.g. he'd lost something, or someone was chasing him)?
What if that man was trying to give the homeowner some help (e.g. "your parcel was delivered to my address by mistake, so here it is")?
In a way it's kind of regrettable, but that's just the way the world is now. If he'd been wearing a suit, the Nextdoor warning would not have been issued by the paranoid homeowner. Likewise, on a bike you can get help proportional to your youth and presentability. If a kid needs help, a decent person would probably provide it. But as you get older you are your only help. So, if some dude is on a BMW GS or something and needs help, then it's reasonable to expect gratitude, a couple of beers or whatever, but the thing is, you've already got enough beers.
Just saying all this to explain my thinking on this. Who's going to help you when you need help? You hear of old guys dying alone in their flats and nobody noticing for weeks. It's just give and take, business, etc. It's not personal. In order to not overthink things and make mistaken off-the-cuff judgments, I just think it's more sensible to refrain from offering help. |
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Bhud wrote: | Well, I've stopped to help in the past, but these days I think help isn't that helpful, for the helper or the helpee. If someone stops to help you, it reduces your ability to think clearly and solve the problem and get yourself out of the situation. If your bike is broken you've got options. You have your phone to call for recovery, you have your tools, and you can try different things. If you don't have anything, you can try hiding the bike somewhere and taking a walk to the next town or village.
I saw a post on Nextdoor recently where someone was warning others about someone knocking on their door. In the daytime. This is absolutely for real. Not trying to hide himself, just knocking and calling out to see if anyone was there, and he even checked around the neighbours (you could see all this from the very clear doorbell camera footage posted by the homeowner). So why the warning? Well, he was a man of about 50, he looked a bit rough (didn't look obviously homeless though) and it was a bad part of town.
What if that man needed help (e.g. he'd lost something, or someone was chasing him)?
What if that man was trying to give the homeowner some help (e.g. "your parcel was delivered to my address by mistake, so here it is")?
In a way it's kind of regrettable, but that's just the way the world is now. If he'd been wearing a suit, the Nextdoor warning would not have been issued by the paranoid homeowner. Likewise, on a bike you can get help proportional to your youth and presentability. If a kid needs help, a decent person would probably provide it. But as you get older you are your only help. So, if some dude is on a BMW GS or something and needs help, then it's reasonable to expect gratitude, a couple of beers or whatever, but the thing is, you've already got enough beers.
Just saying all this to explain my thinking on this. Who's going to help you when you need help? You hear of old guys dying alone in their flats and nobody noticing for weeks. It's just give and take, business, etc. It's not personal. In order to not overthink things and make mistaken off-the-cuff judgments, I just think it's more sensible to refrain from offering help. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 237 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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