XL Bully ban

[Easy-X]

I was about to say "sausage dogs can also be divas" but TBH dogs are so much like us - as in dysfunctional - it doesn't matter what breed it is. All you have is tendencies. Spaniels: most likely mad as a box of frogs but not always.
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[to v or not to v]

just make muzzles a requirement for non working dogs in public unless in designated dog walking areas.
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[Polarbear]

[to v or not to v]

like i said, muzzles off in designated dog walking areas. where you can throw all the sticks you want to.

im a dog owner too. and my retriever loves to chase and carry things.

if having to take my dog to designated areas to let him run run free and unmuzzled prevented any more children being mauled to death/disfigured for life, id consider it a price worth paying.
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[Easy-X]

You put a certain type of dog together with a certain type of people... but the law can't be as nuanced as "XL Bully's are fine unless you're a drug dealer."
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[to v or not to v]

[Bhud]

When you see one, it's likely being walked in the wrong sort of place by the wrong sort of person. And it won't have a muzzle. Massive stereotype, I know, but there it is. I think you have to see it in person - it's just pure muscle power with obviously tremendous leverage in its jaws. If one goes out of control, I don't know what anyone could do about it without the proper equipment and training. Even a policeman (or several) with body armour, a Taser and a stick. Maybe equipment and training along these lines would do the job:

https://greatdaysoutdoors.com/boar-spear/

The breed will become more popular to own in Britain as status/trophy symbols of the local wuss ("hard man"), as the law and order situation in urban centres continues to destabilise. I don't think the almost absolute freedom of dog ownership, which is the established norm here, can possibly continue for long into the future.

[stinkwheel]

I think a lot of them don't get walked because they've never been trained and so just drag their owner about when put on a lead, that's part of the problem.

We've had two of them kill another dog in their own household this year. I've seen dogs kill other dogs but never before a dog they live with. For some reason, they are often kept in a household with a toy breed of some sort. Maybe his n hers?
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[ajag]

We keeping talking about owners of Bullies not being responsible, but why can't we hold owners of the other breeds to the same standard? My dog is a Victorian Bulldog for reference.

My dog is always on a lead she can be reactive to other dogs so I am very careful with the dogs she interacts as it takes a while for her to be fine with them. Every day I walk the same route and every day there is a lady walking her two pugs that love to rile my dog up. Every day I move out of the way as soon as I see her because I know she will not move (I do this for every dog I see).

I can be busy picking up after my dog and she will come at me with her two dogs without slowing down, without being considerate that I am in the way, nothing. Just acts like I am not there. However, I am sure that if something happens, then it is going to be my fault despite me doing my best effort to prevent the situation.

During my walk, people don't pay attention to dogs or what they are doing. Many times my dog has been startled by people walking right next to her while she is doing a poo. Parents let their kids touch every dog in sight without asking the owners if it is ok or not.

Some problems could be avoided if common sense is used.
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[Easy-X]

[duhawkz]

I'd like to see owners prosecuted for dog on dog attacks, as it stands the police don't take action for dog on dog attacks.

I know of a dog near me that has attacked and injured at least 3 other dogs and the owner still allows it off the lead.

If dog on dog attacks were prosecuted, then it means they could leverage those previous offenses to hand down harsher sentences if it ever attacks a person.
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[stinkwheel]

They could, they just don't bother. It's illegal to have a dog out in public that is dnagerously out of control.

If a dog is dangerously out of control in [F1any place [F2in England or Wales] (whether or not a public place)])—

(a)the owner; and

(b)if different, the person for the time being in charge of the dog,

is guilty of an offence, or, if the dog while so out of control injures any person [F3or assistance dog], an aggravated offence, under this subsection.

A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1)F6... above other than an aggravated offence is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both; and a person guilty of an aggravated offence under [F7that subsection] is liable—

(a)on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or both;

(b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding [F8two years][F8the relevant maximum specified in subsection (4A)] or a fine or both.

So you can get up to 6 months in jail and/or a level 5 fine (currently unlimited) for having a dog dangerously out of control. If it kills or injures a person or an assistance dog, hell mend ye.

Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 section 3
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I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[sickpup]

All of the arguments for and against here are pretty much correct but the thing that is being ignored is responsibility which is sadly lacking in todays world.

The younger of my older sisters was taught to cross the road in the 70's by David Prowse, the Green Cross Code Man. Today instead of teaching children to cross the road we have dropped the speed limits in urban areas to 20mph across the country.
In 2022 there were 1695 fatalities on the road and total of 29795 KSI's but prosecutions didn't go up and people weren't trained to cross the road safely.

Hold the owners responsible with proper fines and time banged up and you won't have as many dog attacks, it really is that easy.
Add in 3rd party insurance as a requirement to dog ownership, many already have it through house insurance etc and watch people become more responsible.

[duhawkz]

[Easy-X]

Criminals don't fear the sentence they only fear getting caught. The fault lies entirely with enforcement (or lack thereof.)
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[Nobby the Bastard]

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[Nobby the Bastard]

There are people who still advocate it in the UK as a deterent. Expect Suella as the next great hope for the next election.

After all, She's trying to downgrade persecution of gays to discrimination and not worthy of protection under the human rights act.
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[Easy-X]

[MCN]

[struan80]

The speed limit round where I live is 20. The locals have stuck up maximum speed 10 mph signs everywhere, still doesn't stop people racing around at 40.

I am now self aware about my bulldog in public. Everyone must think I'm a drug dealer.

[ajag]

[Nobby the Bastard]

I have the same issue whilst walking my chihuahuas, but I suspect that people are scared of being bummed rather than bitten.
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[ajag]

Surely everyone has to play their part. Dog owners need to have their dogs under control, whether that is being on the lead at all times (my preference) or have a good recall. Off lead dogs should not be left to wander wherever just because they have good recall, they should remain close to the owners just because you do not know what can happen.

People also have to start respecting animals more. Today I was passing a lady with her two kids as she was on her way to drop them at school. One kid asked me if he could pet my dog and I said yes. All of a sudden both kids are not stroking my dog but both are on her hugging her at the same time. This made her feel uncomfortable specially as one of the kids was grabbing her close to her butt, and made her jump. I had to tell them that stroking her is fine but not to hug her as she does not know them. The response of the mother was "Yes, that is what they do with their dog at home so that is what they do to every dog they see". That right there is a recipe for disaster and she does not seem concerned at all.

I always pet and grab my dog when someone comes to pet her because she is a dog. It is not that I don't trust her, it is just that I want to prevent situations.
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[Jmoan]