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PostPosted: 14:45 - 01 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Know anyone with a proper (silenced) .22?

Not really for garden use so you'd have to shoot into the ground e.g. from an upstairs window - could be dodgy unless you're well isolated.


999 - Hello police, I've just seen a rifle pointing out of my neighbours window. Laughing

I don't think I'd like to try that!
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 01 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Know anyone with a proper (silenced) .22?

Not really for garden use so you'd have to shoot into the ground e.g. from an upstairs window - could be dodgy unless you're well isolated.


Laughing that's a really fast way to get armed response kicking my door in
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 02 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy i used to work with had a probablem in his back garden, in a built up area, not countryside. He got in touch with a pest controller, cost him £60 for a guy to sit in his back garden in a hide for two evenings and shoot them with a .22 rifle.
Guy was fully insured, and had appropriate licences.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 02 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Know anyone with a proper (silenced) .22?

Not really for garden use so you'd have to shoot into the ground e.g. from an upstairs window - could be dodgy unless you're well isolated.


Using a .22 wouldn't be a humane solution. People that shoot foxes for farmers tend to use .223 which is centre fire rather than rim fire and has a lot more muzzle energy, accuracy and range.

Shooting any firearm into a garden though...
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 02 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annoyed because I accidentally startled Badger tonight on my front garden whilst he/she was snuffling around on my front lawn and didn't have a camera with me.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 05 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTTD wrote:
Guy i used to work with had a probablem in his back garden, in a built up area, not countryside. He got in touch with a pest controller, cost him £60 for a guy to sit in his back garden in a hide for two evenings and shoot them with a .22 rifle.
Guy was fully insured, and had appropriate licences.


Shooting a .22LR in a garden is absolutely insane imho Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 06 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest that a shotgun is not only a better tool for a moving target than a rifle, it's probably easier to get a permit in the UK for a shotgun than it is a rifle. However, as has already been noted, unless you have a back garden sized and located in a place such as my mother's then it isn't advisable to be waving any kind of firearm about.

And just for Nobby, taking shots with a camera is always the best course of action with badgers. Miss them with a firearm, they can get proper pissy, proper quick and just one of them sounds like a freight train bearing down on you. Whistle
Disclaimer: I was out keeping the local rabbit population in check, not taking pot shots at old Brock.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 07 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what the guy I worked with said, the pest control guy set his hide up, put food in front of a back stop and then waited. He basically set up a very controlled situation where he was shooting a near stationery target 20 yards away with expanding .22 ammo.
You're not going to use a .243 in a residential area, or try and hit a running fox with a shotgun.
OP, call a pest controller and let them deal with it.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 07 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deal with what? The foxes are making a bit of noise at night (close tne windows) and sometimes annoy his cats, so it’s the death penalty? FFS! Let ‘em be.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 13 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
so it’s the death penalty?

Yes
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 15 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Let ‘em be


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PostPosted: 10:49 - 16 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Deal with what? The foxes are making a bit of noise at night (close tne windows) and sometimes annoy his cats, so it’s the death penalty? FFS! Let ‘em be.


Those birds chirping really early in the morning. Have to sort those out too.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 16 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those birds chirping really early in the morning. Have to sort those out too.

Laughing

My neighbour has an annoying cough…
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 16 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
My neighbour has an annoying cough…


Firing squad for that cunt too then
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 16 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaddyStu wrote:
Those birds chirping really early in the morning. Have to sort those out too.


My town used to be know for the large parakeet population. Very annoying first thing in the morning.

Culled 2 years ago, problem sorted.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 16 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
A100man wrote:
Know anyone with a proper (silenced) .22?

Not really for garden use so you'd have to shoot into the ground e.g. from an upstairs window - could be dodgy unless you're well isolated.


Using a .22 wouldn't be a humane solution. People that shoot foxes for farmers tend to use .223 which is centre fire rather than rim fire and has a lot more muzzle energy, accuracy and range.

Shooting any firearm into a garden though...


Nothing wrong with .22LR it will kill anything with the correct shot placement under 100 yards. I have killed dozens of Foxes, Skunks, and inbred feral cats (unfortunate but necessary) with headshots.

I had this bugger who had attacked our dog the previous night 30 yards from my back door chewing on a dog toy. 40 grain .223 JHP put a nice fist-sized exit hole in him.

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PostPosted: 19:52 - 16 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

This evening it was a cub eating peanuts dropped by birds from the bird feeder. The cats next door were completely uninterested and my dogs didn't even bother waking up.

The guinea pigs in the back garden are still safe within their run.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 16 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatters wrote:
I had this bugger who had attacked our dog the previous night 30 yards from my back door chewing on a dog toy. 40 grain .223 JHP put a nice fist-sized exit hole in him.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/coyote_tatters.jpg


Did you at least make a nice hat from it?
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 16 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
tatters wrote:
I had this bugger who had attacked our dog the previous night 30 yards from my back door chewing on a dog toy. 40 grain .223 JHP put a nice fist-sized exit hole in him.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/coyote_tatters.jpg


Did you at least make a nice hat from it?


Perfectly legal to kill as pest control, but you need a trapper license to use the fur which doesn't make sense.

This one was also abnormally large for a female Coyote.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 18 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are out in the sticks a .22LR might be fine, but over here in a built up area the chance of a ricochet would be unacceptable (at least to me). I’d trade noise for lower bounce risk and use a .17hmr or just go with a centre fire. I know pest controllers who use .22 without problems.

I’ve seen lots of people have a go away from built up areas with a .22 and over 30m not kill the fox cleanly, their enthusiasm exceeded their skill sadly.

Prior to the advent of the .204 I had a .20 Tac built, still have it and use it for foxes. Brilliant round, and you can now get brass for it rather than having to make your own.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 18 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're happy to kill urban foxes for disturbing your siesta in my view you are on par with the hooray Henrys with their dogs and horses who do it for fun as well.

Just my view,
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 19 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m doing it on farms. Fox hunting with dogs and horses is not an effective way of controlling them and in my view is cruel so rightly banned.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 19 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farmers needing to get rid of foxes indicate poor animal husbandry.
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 19 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen what a fox can do if it gets into a duck or chicken enclosure, or a pheasant pen or even amongst lambing sheep?
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 19 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foxes/Coyotes/Wolves etc cause problems for livestock/pets but one of the worst pests for the environment here in Canada is the Beaver. They devastate trees and cause flooding by damming waterways.

We shoot them out in the open or when they surface in the water for air (.17HMR/.223). And blow up the lodges with tannerite.


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