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PostPosted: 12:10 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK Lithium batteries are intended for modern bikes with consistent charging systems.

On older, simpler bikes a lead acid battery is an active part of the power regulation system the properties of which the manufacturers exploited to keep the component costs down.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Probably. I have no experience of lithium batteries on that type of charging system so not sure how well it will play. Others might know more.

This is the smallest more conventional lead acid I've been able to find.
https://www.tayna.co.uk/motorcycle-batteries/powerline/ytx4l-bs/


I believe the one I shared is seal lead acid, not lithium. Probably it can work fine I would say… Thanks for adding another option!
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
AFAIK Lithium batteries are intended for modern bikes with consistent charging systems.

On older, simpler bikes a lead acid battery is an active part of the power regulation system the properties of which the manufacturers exploited to keep the component costs down.


Thanks for mentioning that! Can you please take a look at the battery I shared? I believe it’s a seal lead acid, not lithium.

Thank you all for the support!
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the site, this is what you should be using:

https://bs-battery.com/product/btx4l-bs-btz5s-bs/

But if you were hankering for something smaller then this:

https://bs-battery.com/product/bt4b-bs/

would be a closer match than the sealed AGM battery you previously linked.

Always a good starting point is to try and render a bike back to the "factory defaults" get everything running satisfactorily to set a base line and only then start modding in the clever ideas Smile
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
According to the site, this is what you should be using:

https://bs-battery.com/product/btx4l-bs-btz5s-bs/

But if you were hankering for something smaller then this:

https://bs-battery.com/product/bt4b-bs/

would be a closer match than the sealed AGM battery you previously linked.

Always a good starting point is to try and render a bike back to the "factory defaults" get everything running satisfactorily to set a base line and only then start modding in the clever ideas Smile


Sadly I cant put these battery on their side like the SLA one... What are the risks of using the AGM SLA one ? Thanks again!
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be pretty unlucky if the battery went pop but more likely the rest of the bike's electrics are hoping for the battery to behave in a certain way. Maybe some lightbulbs pop or the stator burns out, no biggie Smile

Any chance you could beg/borrow/steal a conventional lead-acid battery? Not to fit, just to loosely wire up and test everything works. e.g. "Great! My lights and indicators now work as expected, charging looks good at idle and some revs..." the base line I was talking about. Sub in the sealed unit after and if all sorts of weird shit happens at least you can go "whelp, it worked with the other battery."
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
You'd be pretty unlucky if the battery went pop but more likely the rest of the bike's electrics are hoping for the battery to behave in a certain way. Maybe some lightbulbs pop or the stator burns out, no biggie Smile

Any chance you could beg/borrow/steal a conventional lead-acid battery? Not to fit, just to loosely wire up and test everything works. e.g. "Great! My lights and indicators now work as expected, charging looks good at idle and some revs..." the base line I was talking about. Sub in the sealed unit after and if all sorts of weird shit happens at least you can go "whelp, it worked with the other battery."


A stator burning is not good at all...
Yes I did test with a lead acid battery (yb2.5l-c) and everything seems to work fine
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battery you posted should work fine. Important considerations are size: will it fit in your battery box? and terminal configuration i.e. positive right and negative left. Get the wrong terminal configuration and your cables won't connect.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffyjeff wrote:
Battery you posted should work fine. Important considerations are size: will it fit in your battery box? and terminal configuration i.e. positive right and negative left. Get the wrong terminal configuration and your cables won't connect.


Yeah this BT4B-5 SLA AGM can be on its side and fits easily under the seat. Regarding cables I can adapt to any kind of connector since I have the equipment to do it .

Thanks for the help!
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

rego21 wrote:
A stator burning is not good at all...


That wasn't meant to be a joke Wink
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
rego21 wrote:
A stator burning is not good at all...


That wasn't meant to be a joke Wink


Wish me luck then ahah
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this video he used a SLA battery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYiR6FZJAAE . Probably this kind of batteries will work fine
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 30 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's odd. The first time I clicked your initial link, it took me to a lithium battery.

Those should work. I didn't find they lasted long on my enfield bullet but it produces some HEAVY vibration and I think it damaged the plates. Only other issue I'd flag is the spade terminals have a habit of coming off. I landed up soldering mine on.
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