Wrote my car off! What next?

[owdamer]

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Maybe you just went too fast round the corner

[owdamer]

[Kwaks]

Think the difference between Cagiva and you is that at least Cagiva can admit some fault and responsibility for his accident. You on the other hand are blaming your accident on a road where "conditions were good. the road was dry and there were no damp spots or anything." Yeah so it must have been diesel which had dried in leaving absolutely no trace on the road surface

[NSR Mick]

If you crash you are always going too fast, the difference between crashing and not is knowing what is'nt too fast and in the dark and wet the odds start stacking up against you, and once diesel is thrown in for good measure your chances become even less.
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[G]

First, the speed limit is a maximum limit set, it does not dicatate that driving at any lower percentage of it will be safe. Nor does it mean that driving above it will be un-safe.
He may well have been on a national speed limit doing 10/20mph under the limit at the time.

I would suspect his perception before he crashed was probably that he was going at a reasonable speed for the corner.

Are you trying to claim you weren't going to fast?

Maybe it was very hard to see that there was a problem. However I presume many cars had taken that corner that day in similar conditions and not crashed. I'd be willing to bet a 'better' driver would have not crashed in your place.

Maybe you were 'less' at fault, but we still talking about different points on the same scale.

[owdamer]

Bollocks.
I was driving under the limit, on a road I know well. I've drived over the same stretch twice a day for about 20 years.
Its the local bypass. its not even a corner, its a gentle curve, but the adverse camber tends to push all the weight to one side of the car. Thats why I was driving

[Kwaks]

Don't think you quite grasp this, YOU crashed therefore you were driving TOO fast. Are you following? Its really quite simple.

Cagiva also crashed, because he was driving TOO fast. Still with me?

No-where did Cagiva say he was exceeding the speed limit. Got it?

YOU BOTH CRASHED from going TOO fast, speed is a factor in every accident. Still here?

OK Cagiva can admit he was going too fast for the conditions,that is called learning from your mistake.

You on the other hand seem to believe that you had no responsibility for the vehicle you were driving leaving the road


Whether you were going 5 mph or 50mph has no relevance,if you crashed you were going too fast . So simple my 3 year old can understand it.


Do You?

[NSR Mick]

Thanks for putting that into simple english kwaker.
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[Kwaks]

No probs mate,just to make sure the message gets across

[flat spot]

Not taking sides here, but the speed limit does not indicate how fast you can travel along a road due to the conditions of a road.

Making a point that a person is under the speed limit before a crash is totally irrelevant.

If a person crashed it was due to inappropriate speed. If you crashed at 30 in a 60 you are still going to fast.

[owdamer]

So if i was going to fast, then how is it I could stand and watch cars all day long, going about 20 mph faster and not crash?
Perhaps they're all better driver than I am?
If I turn around now and say, its my own fault, I was driving to fast, will that make me a better driver too having learned from my experience?
No. it wont. because I still dont know the cause.
What am I supposed to do? drive around everywhere at 10mph because I dont know the full facts about every inch of the road at any one given moment?
the only similarities between me and whatshisname is we both crashed. I looked at the road and slowed down, he looked at the road and didn't slow down. He could have slowed down, he chose not to. his choice. in my opinion it was a reckless choice.

One more thing. May 2005. Cagiva mito say he went through a speed camera at 60-65 in a 50 zone. he knows it was wrong but he's learnt from it....
After this I'd say maybe he hasn't.

[Kwaks]

???? Where in Cagivas post did it say he didnt slow down for the corner? He said he took a corner too fast,completely different statement than saying

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[owdamer]

Well if something was wrong with the car the crash must have fixed it. I had the car put in for repair the day after the crash. They checked the chassis alignment and it was straight. the tyres and wheels where ok so that rules that out. The car was a 5 year old run of the mill mondeo estate, not some souped up max power shitheap. If someone admits to that driving too fast caused an accident then i'm afraid i'm going to assume they're a knob head. its all very well saying he's learnt his lesson coz he's admitted he did something stupid.
If I go out and punch someone, then apologise does that make everything ok? I dont think so.
you got your opinions. I got mine. looks like they're always going to differ on this.

[Fallen Angel]

[mrchips]

[Kwaks]

Hard to believe the same person wrote both of these

"I got done for 87 in a 40 and got away with a fixed penalty. 3 points & £40 I think it was. The copper who stopped me said there wasn't any other traffic & I looked to be in full control but he couldn't let me off as it was over double the speed limit. I think I was doing about 105 when I first spotted him.
I thanked him for the ticket and I meant it."

[Shaun]

[Reevo8]

Haha, this guys having a bitch fit and moaning about him not killing someone. And for having a near identical crash too him!

Owdamer you are a tit. Think before you speak!
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[owdamer]