UK jobs, fuel shortgages etc. Brexit dividents?

[Nobby the Bastard]

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[Nobby the Bastard]

It's all good going for a single platform until you realise that single platform is now a generic thing that has made a load of compromises in it's design so the single platform can do everything barely tolerably rather than building something that fits the particular environment.

A good example is the Gripen and the Typhoon. The Typhoon will be fucking great in a dog fight and has been rated suitably for ground support but has a heavy support requirement including dedicated airfields.

The Gripen isn't as good where a dogfight is concerned, I'm unsure of it's ground support ability but if Typhoon can, it can, but it can be supported by mobile technicians and can operate out of any suitably long piece of tarmac.
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[stinkwheel]

I'm still not entirely sure why we built the Typhoon, It was a prime bit of Eurofuckery too. Supposed to be a multinational European collaboration/project that contributors gradually pulled out of.

It's a banging interceptor right enough, I'm just not sure an interceptor is really what we needed but presumably enough of the collaberators convinced themselves that's what they wanted. We need a few interceptors to chase Bears out of the North Atlantic but you could do that with a 1950's fast jet, any multirole fast jet capable of carrying an air-to-air missile would be up to the job. You could turn one around with a Hawk.

I still think what we needed for the UK was effectively a Harrier reboot. Same idea, same field deployment ability, more everything else.
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[Ste]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Harrier wasn't supersonic. For that matter the design brief for F35 didn't include supersonic and thats why it keeps breaking it's invisibility when it goes supersonic.

An interceptor needs to be fucking quick. Thats what Typhoon was designed as and does. German, Italian, Spanish and British. Qatar, Austria, Oman, Kuwait and Saudia bought it as well.

Interceptors are to shoot down bombers flying in from Russia, dogfighting is a bonus, so you want them in the air and shooting them down as quickly as possible.

Harrier and F35 don't meet that metric.
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[bhinso]

As I said before, What would an EU army be doing about Ukraine?

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[Val]

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[Nobby the Bastard]

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[Ste]

[bhinso]

By the way, what exactly does 'divident' mean?

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

So according to Val it is important that those soldiers shuffling about near the border wear the EU brand, not NATO badges, and the decisive, military and financial might of the USA isn’t wanted. Where’s the advantage?

[Ste]

[MCN]

Reasonable.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

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