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I noticed that there have been quite a few Blue Point items coming up on ebay auctions lately. This seller seems to have a lot https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/the_carfixer.
Blue Point is the Snap-on budget range but don't discount it because of that, quality is still good. If I wanted a 1/4 drive set of sockets I would be looking here.
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: | | Ste wrote: | You need a range of different hammers.
- Normal hammer.
- Dead blow hammer.
- Club hammer.
- Rubber mallet.
- Sledge hammer.
A folding set of allen keys is very useful.
1/4 inch sockets up to 14 or 15, 1/2 sockets down to 10 or 12.
Combination spanners give you the closed ring which if there's enough space is much better than using the open end of the spanner.
For screw drivers you just want to get a half decent quality set with a wide enough range of different sizes.
You also need an angle grinder. Actually no, better make one of each size.  |
And MC Hammer, of course. |
And the BFH aka Big Fucking Hammer. 
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| sickpup wrote: | | chris-red wrote: | a tool chest is metals trays and bearings, there isn't anything complicated there. I feel they are all massively overpriced for what they actually are. |
Well there are complex things like folding is particular ways so they can hold the weight needed without deforming as if they did deform it would make it hard to open drawers. For example here is a single one (I have several as you may remember) of my socket trays...
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/Odds%20and%20ends/20151205_144113.jpg
Notice the weight on the scales, thats 12 pounds so only 2 pounds short of a stone in weight. Now any cheap tool cabinet will hold around 30kgs per drawer, the better ones will hold 40kg+ per drawer so a simple 5 drawer cabinet will hold 150KG WITHOUT deforming. To put that in context a simple 7 drawer chest will hold 210kg evenly spread WITHOUT deforming, thats the weight of your TDM850.
It is still your money and it is still your choice but being uninformed when making your choices and not understanding why something costs what it does doesn't help you. |
I don't have and will probably never have 150kg of tools though, unless we included the bench AND vice. It'll be drivers, allen keys, spanners, sockets 1/4 & 1/2, and a jumble of misc stuff, hammers, pliers, spring puller, fork seal driver, chain breaker etc. etc.
So that'd be 40kg at the absolute max.
a £400 toolbox that holds 150kg of tools is pointless for someone with ~40kg of tools that probably cost ~£400
I'm sure they are good if you have a shit load of tools and you use everyday, I'll have mostly basics and use it twice a month.
P.S. my TDM900 Weighs 220kg
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If you don't want to buy a half decent let alone a decent tool chest/cabinet then don't but stop trying to justify why you shouldn't do it.
Simple FACT is if you get one and there is loads of space in it you will fill it by putting things such as extra oil filters, bulbs etc in it as it keeps everything to hand. You will also find you put drill bits in it, your drill, you airline bits because it is pointless having a garage that has no power and if it has power you will get a compressor and you will get air tools. You will also place your household bits like screws and rawl plugs in it, spare fuses, tap washers etc and in no time at all you will find that you need a bigger tool box. And seriously do you think you will only ever need one fork seal driver, you going to keep the same bike forever?
If you really want to go into it where are you planning on keeping your lathe bits? I would suggest a tool cabinet is the perfect place and they aren't exactly lightweight bits.
And are you planning on restricting yourself to a minimal toolkit for the rest of your life? I thought the point of having this garage was you could actually do things in it and save money.
Bottom line is your money your choice but please stop trying to justify why a DIYer shouldn't have a tool cabinet, they are cheap enough when you consider they last decades and protect your investment.
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| Posted: 14:39 - 07 Dec 2015 Post subject: |
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I don't need it to be  I'll check those out £150 is far more palatable.
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| sickpup wrote: | Chris
If you don't want to buy a half decent let alone a decent tool chest/cabinet then don't but stop trying to justify why you shouldn't do it.
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I've never said I shouldn't had a tool cabinet, what I have said over and over is I think they are overpriced, especially for my needs.
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Simple FACT is if you get one and there is loads of space in it you will fill it by putting things such as extra oil filters, bulbs etc in it as it keeps everything to hand. You will also find you put drill bits in it, your drill, you airline bits because it is pointless having a garage that has no power and if it has power you will get a compressor and you will get air tools. You will also place your household bits like screws and rawl plugs in it, spare fuses, tap washers etc and in no time at all you will find that you need a bigger tool box.
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I will not be keeping non tools, in it for me the point of a rolling tool chest is to keep your tools in one place and you can move them to where you are working. I will have racking and other organiser for parts/fastners/whatever. I have air tools and I use dads compressor, I have an impact wrench, cut off tool and a shot blaster. The only things I have actually used however is the tyre pump and blow line. So I'm not bothered about keeping them close.
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And seriously do you think you will only ever need one fork seal driver, you going to keep the same bike forever?
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It does 35-45mm, it's worked for everything so far.
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If you really want to go into it where are you planning on keeping your lathe bits? I would suggest a tool cabinet is the perfect place and they aren't exactly lightweight bits.
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In boxes/trays/organisers next to the Lathe, were else  why would I want them taking up space in a rolling tool chest when the can be next to the only spot where I will use them.
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And are you planning on restricting yourself to a minimal toolkit for the rest of your life? I thought the point of having this garage was you could actually do things in it and save money.
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Our definitions of minimal differ, I'll have sockets up to 36, allen/torx/star bits/keys up to 12 (and a front wheel thing) spanners up to 24 + a shifter. A decent set of drivers, pliers etc. There are also many little bits and bobs such as feeler gauges, bearing pullers, fork damper holders etc. That I have, I can't think what I would be limited by when doing bog standard maintenance on a Modern bike.
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Bottom line is your money your choice but please stop trying to justify why a DIYer shouldn't have a tool cabinet, they are cheap enough when you consider they last decades and protect your investment.
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As I said I'm not, I just said a £400 tool chest that can hold a metric tonne, is overkill for someone whose probable spend on tools will be about that.
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TDM is actually Pretty light, 220kg is wet weight and it is lighter than any of it peers.
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I bought earlier in the year a WERA KRAFTFORM SCREWDRIVER SET and it is probable the best screwdrivers i have ever owned (bloody i have got through some screwdrivers in my time). As these are your most used tool it pays to get a decent set.
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| sickpup wrote: | | chris-red wrote: | Anyway abuse because I don't want to spend £400 on a bomb proof trolley aside |
No, abuse because I have very little tolerance for people talking rubbish.
To spend the money building a garage and then to want to put expensive tools on shelves whether they be hand tools, lathe tools or whatever is exasperating.
To not understand that your tool collection will grow significantly over the next few decades is exasperating.
To not realise that you will need impact sockets (so thats a 3rd set)to go with your air ratchet, normal sockets can have the unexpected comedy problem of shattering when used on air tools is exasperating.
To not realise that you will need two sets of spanners, one to hold a bolt and one the nut is exasperating.
You have a chance with a blank slate to build a decent workshop but you seem to have decided not to, you could buy two bottom cabs for example and have the worktop and vice above it but instead you have decided against it due to price which in the long term is minimal. You have also placed limits artificially on what you plan to do longterm. That is exasperating.
As to what you can't do bog standard maintenance wise on a Modern bike changing an electrical connector jumps to mind or checking tdc or anything electrical etc would you like me to continue? and yet you have the space and intelligence to do all these things.
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I already have a crimp set and a ratchet crimper, a multi meter and dial gauge too, I used etc. because I'm not going to list every single tool I have.
You've made you position clear, I'm still not spending £400 on a tool chest. Care to move on, or would you like to repeat yourself again?
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I know that, I've found cheaper ones and have been looking at them, that one looks cheap and cheerful, I'm not sure if it would be too small, I'm going to measure dads one, and see what size that is.
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