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[sickpup]

Your whole attitude of 'them and us' and the idea of being 'out numbered' makes you sound like a little racist.

The life experience thing tells us people are pretty much the same where ever you go. Except Reading of course

[MarJay]

[Shay HTFC]

Bloody hell this topic contains a load of bullshit.

For those people who say that they hate black / asian / whatever people, did you know there are a fair few people on this forum that are from those backgrounds and you wouldn't have a clue. It doesn't matter as we are interested in the same things and enjoy talking to each other. Their skin colour doesn't even come into it.

However,
Sickpup, there are parts of the country that have more 'ethnic minorities' than the 'locals'. This is just fact. Parts of Bradford (example near me) are like this. To deny it is to deny basic facts.

The problem has nothing to do with skin colour or racial background. It has to do with culture. Just like if someone comes on here and speaks in a different way that no one likes ("Dis iz shiz") then we all complain about it and tell them to fit into the existing community and speak the way the majority do.

What is the difference between a black person moving into Birmingham and going around saying "Dis is shiz"? Is it now ok and part of multiculturalism? What is the difference between saying it in normal life and saying it on a forum?

The bottom line is that people from different cultures are going to have different ways of going about life which other cultures may not agree with or find very irritating and until everyone becomes homogenised into some sort of mono-culture then this will happen.

P.S. Saying "I thought everyone still burnt crosses in Somerset" is on a par with saying "I thought everyone still blew themselves up in Pakistan" - It is judging someone simply from where they live, which is essentially a form of racism.


Oh and by the way, I live in Birmingham in a house with my best mate who happens to be Sri Lankan and my ex-girlfriend was Indian.
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[Shaane]

I don't have problems with any race of people.. Only people i have problems with are people who don't want to work for anything and expect the world to bow at there feet.

I hate it when people have problems with others because of there race/culture/background etc.
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[JonB]

People from Somerset are hugely racist in nature. Seriously when I go back home all I hear about is stuff like "Oh noooess there are 30 new polish workers in the factory down the road, they are taking all of our jobs". No they fucking aren't there are loads of fat lazy cider drinkers who are happy claiming the dole all day long.

Seriously, some of the comments I hear back home would have them killed if they lived anywhere within an earshot of another race.

However this is only down to the fact that immigrants are quite a new thing for the area, it's only over the past 5 years that a lot of rural towns have become "swamped" (that's what they call it) with portuguese and Polish workers and for a county that generally is full of white locals is obviously going to take time to adjust, just like all of the other areas in the country had to do 40 or so years before when the first wave of mass immigration occured.

I remember when I went to the park with a black mate to play football who is completely English and the shit he was getting was unbearable, there is no tolerance for other races in some pockets of the country and it doesn't surprise me that Tutton has that warped attitude to other races.
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[lozzypop1]

What EVERYONE seems to be missing is that you don't actually NEED to declare your ethnicity.
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[pa_broon74]

Oooh, a heated debate.

The racism card is over-played, its not so much an issue of whether a certain word is not fit for use, more a case of over sensitivity with those listening. Ironically, the people who tend take the most offence are not even in the ethnic group being maligned.

We're all to busy tiptoeing around worrying about what we can and cannot say, why bother? Is it not enough to say your going to the shop, does the nationality of those running it have to be explained?

Racism is an issue only when realisable physical damage or monetary loss is incurred, if someone is assaulted only for being from where-ever then yes, throw the book at the perpetrators.

We really need to have a look at how society deals with 'offence,' we seem all to be so coddled these days by the nanny-PC-state that the smallest mithering about where a person comes from becomes an issue of massive and sometimes violent debate.

Why do we even care and why do we give those that do have hardline racist views the attention they so obviously crave but really don't deserve, is it because we're now taught to be so overly sensitive that we wail uncontrollably when some low-foreheaded arse utters something everyone knows to be utter shite (and isn't even aimed out our enthnic group) when we should just pat them on the head and say "there there, off home now with you..."

Going back to the OP (in a vain attempt to stay on topic lest someone be offended ) Why should any of the boxes need to be ticked, is it not best to decide on skills, experience and suitability for the job? Do you really care if you buy your couscous or marloboro lights from an Indian or a Lithuanian?

If the government want to ban something worthy, they should ban box ticking and pidgeon-holing because that in itself is divisive.

Possibly the longest post I've ever made...


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[Pie-Roe]

I don't like foreign people in one way, because I can't understand what they say. Got no problem with them stealing jobs/beating people up/etc etc as alleged because the scum of this country do that just as much.

By foreign I mean anyone who doesn't speak what I'd call normally, which is what we speak down here in kentish lands, received pronounciation with a bit of rough talk. I go to london quite a lot, and I still find it occasionally hard to talk to proper londoners, as they seem to have a language of their own, and then additional dialect on top of that.

Accent and mannerisms of places is hard enough for me to understand from people of england, (scotland isn't soo bad cause mother is scottish) welsh, pah, Irish nah.. Throw in an accent coming from another language altogether and I'm fecked

The only time it's been a real problem was trying to sell my bike to a polish fella after he won it on ebay, I just had to say to him, sorry mate I can't understand you over the phone, I'll email you all the stuff.

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[Didge]

[LeeR]

[thegubner]

Well work this ut for equality.

I filled out an application for sainsbury's a while ago as a baker, the bit where you had to tick the boxes for origin, there was a box marked " Irish Traveller" .

[LeeR]

[thegubner]

[The Tot]

Man, i hate having to fill out forms and declaring "other" and then filling in south east asian. There seems to be no option for that, since "asian" is often classified as being indian/sri lankan/pakistani or bangladeshi. Very seldom do i see the option for far eastern/oriental - it's either chinese or asian other . I'm gonna put from now onwards " other - YELLOW!" since it's what i'm most comfortable putting down, as a piss take, but if ethnicity is going to be defined by colour, it's probably the most accurate description.

Also to dispel this myth of racism etc, i work in scotland of all places who I thought resented people who came south of the border, let alone overseas, and in my work place, i'm probably THE only foreign person as in non-white there, but i don't get any hint of racism - usually racial based banter, but it's all good. I'm actually associated as a cockney geezer at work which is probably more appropriate and what i'm normally associated with (only applies if people hear my voice before seeing me). I kinda feel cool that i'm the only oriental probably within 10 miles of the power station. Anyway, I digress.

I guess just to make life simpler and dispel any prejudice and instigate discrimination, they should leave a blank space and put it to yourself to describe your ethnicity as you see fit. It's for a job, so i feel that it's much better to see the person as a whole before trying to assume their identity and create presumptions about the individual. English won't get discriminated, neither would blacks, nor would the poles, nor would middle easterns or the "asians" or the orientals. You wouldn't feel the need to associate yourself with a band that you wouldn't feel fit to describe yourself as.
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[Didge]

The whole thing is a complete farce anyway, just to pander to the cultural Marxism (PC) brigade, so that companies can show how 'diverse' they are.
Jobs should go to the best applicant for said job, not to someone purely on ethnic grounds just to make up token numbers, so that the feeble minded, brain washed managers of these spineless companies can pat each other on the backs.

[Skudd]

You have to admit though that some breeds of humans are uglier than others.
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