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PostPosted: 13:52 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the pic of the Pentagon I remember from the time?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Pentagon_crach_site.jpg
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
https://planetquo.net/911/Pentagon%20Strike.jpg


Is that really the hole 'made' by the plane? Really? C'mon, don't lie to me, please.

If it is, that is utterly ridiculous. I mean, they could have at least got rid of the pristine 'No Parking' sign.

Crazy.

Funny how it is the least talked about (in the mainstream media) impact. Does seem very suspect.

On the subject of #7 WTC, what was the point in demolishing it tho? That's what I don't understand - I mean the main event had happened well before, why bother with that one?


Actually I think that's the exit-hole on the other side of the block. Embarassed

I'll try and find the correct pictures of the entry-hole, before the facade collapsed, the original comments still apply.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.assassinationscience.com/white_pentaunbrokewindows.jpg
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

it can be a confusing subject.. the hole we see above was at the back of the building..which makes it more interesting than the one at the front for reasons i will get to. below is a picture of the front iimpact zone before it collapsed..a diagram of the plane has been added to illustrate where it would have impacted

https://www.kolumbus.fi/sy-k/pentagon/3v/DD2b.jpg

as for the construction materials intact untouched/moved sitting directly in front..well id have my house kitted out with that electric wiring..talk about robust!

https://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/images/photoalbum/1/pentagonfireball.JPG

soon after the front impact zone caved in

https://verdade.no.sapo.pt/destruction/pentagon_911_terror.jpg

it just does not add up!

https://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Slickoutkast/911_pentagon_attack_damage.jpg

the official story is the plane vaporised upon impact..some how the body's never and were still in fit enough shape to be identified..

https://www.911swindle.info/images/physics911pentagon.jpg

this hole being on the other side could have been caused by no other than the plane its self..a nose cone perhaps? the plane vaporized though..and the only parts of the plane with the potential to travel through that building were the engines..this is not damaged caused by two engines.
on the 10th of september the day before Donald Rumsfeld declared
the pentagon can not account for $2.3 trillion in transactions..

https://benfrank.net/patriots/news/national/pentagon_missing_trillions

sadly with the events of the following day and loss of evidence at the pentagon this issue has never been raised since
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is the worst piece of 'evidence' ever. Seriously. It's shite.

The two pics show damage to thin, unbraced panels, not structural members capable of keeping a 100tonne plane in the air at 500mph.

In response to the fucktarded statement on the picture, yes, I do think wings could easily cut through steel columns at 500mph. Nee bother.

That doesn't mean I buy the whole deal, but really, that argument is terrible, and does not help your cause one iota.


i don't have a "cause" i am not trying to convert you.. we are having a talk here..you mind?

well theres some more shit evidence for you.. because aluminum wings especially the tips can easily cut through floors as well as 2-3 foot thick steal Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone got the pic of the Pentagon with the chunk of fuselage Photoshopped onto the lawn? {off to look for it].....

In the meantime...

Watch this video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsqa_8uhmOE&eurl=https://911truth.tripod.com/pentagon.html

At 1minute and 20seconds into the video fix your eyes on the centre right of the image. Count up to 1 minute and 27 seconds and tell me if you see the huge nose cone of a jet liner or the narrow pointed nose cone of a missile. It's only 1 frame of footage so watch closely.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.newsfollowup.com/id/images_20/aircraft_parts_lawn_pentagon_911.jpg

that?
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks real
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you think it looks like it just came off a plane which just crashed into a building and created an immense fireball? Hmmmm

Here's a better view...


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PostPosted: 16:14 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those pieces were planted by the same FBI scum who ran around stealing all the video footage from the various CCTVs. Multiple people have stated how their CCTV footage was taken by the FBI, just minutes after the 'plane' had hit, and it has never been returned or released.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

cestrian wrote:
Has anyone got the pic of the Pentagon with the chunk of fuselage Photoshopped onto the lawn? {off to look for it].....

In the meantime...

Watch this video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsqa_8uhmOE&eurl=https://911truth.tripod.com/pentagon.html

At 1minute and 20seconds into the video fix your eyes on the centre right of the image. Count up to 1 minute and 27 seconds and tell me if you see the huge nose cone of a jet liner or the narrow pointed nose cone of a missile. It's only 1 frame of footage so watch closely.


Clear as clear can be, a long slim nose of a missile appears at the right edge of the frame. Fvcking airliner my ass, that footage by itself is irrefutable evidence.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

and now for the twin towers

https://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/images/photoalbum/5/wtc_small_1056.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/collapse2.jpg

there are no ifs or buts..it Was bought down by controlled demolition..the floors of impact were damaged..even if it was a case of them giving way and the top of the building falling onto the lower section..the top of the building would have just fallen off! it would not have taken the hole building long with it at free fall speed..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX9gdRST6zM&feature=related
leaving this mess at the end

https://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/ground_zero_aerialb.jpg

what strikes me most is every single anti terro legislation we are faced with today..the slick precision smart bomb war on terror

https://www.propagandamatrix.com/images/march2006/100306iraq.jpg
that never mistakes a civilian for an enemy..or catches any enemy.. iraq/afghan.. and now rantings about iran.. have all come from this event! if this event never happened neither would have the above..personally im not bothered by a bit of blood..loss of life is a part of life..the loss of life in the name of seeking justice for this event.. is in my mind incalculable i cant even begin to imagine how many lives have been destroyed. so make what you personally will of it..that is all a person can do..if something in this thread does not send a spark of curiosity into your conscious mind..then for you thats the way its meant to be..and if it does..take a look at the world as though you have never seen it before.. i mean really take a look..don't bring your past experience/expectations/beliefs/wants/likes/dislikes into the matter..just take one long look-peace
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

So following your thought processes to their logical conclusion, there is no such thing as the Taliban, they are just FBI agents who, sorry............... FBI agent scum, who after going after the Evil USSR now have turned onto their own troops and country in order to propagate some cause that only those that are in the know and those who surf the world wide web and can read between the lines and do not follow the blind sheep that is everyone who disagrees with them.

I understand now, and I am converted so that I too can laugh at the sheep scum, I can see the 40 virgin maidens waiting for me and I will sit on the right hand of the Lord. Oh sorry got carried away there with the moment of enlightenment.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

as said make of it as you will..that comes down to you. all the best Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 21 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mad_man wrote:
as said make of it as you will..that comes down to you. all the best Thumbs Up

But what happens if I think the wrong thing> I may be a cheep scum without knowing it. I need you to force your clip and paste opinions on me so that I can laugh at others come 2010.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mad_man wrote:
well theres some more shit evidence for you.. because aluminum wings especially the tips can easily cut through floors as well as 2-3 foot thick steal Thumbs Up



Yes, I do. At 500mph they will have a lot of energy, and are strong, stiff structures. Just because they are less dense, and not as substantial as the steel, does not mean they couldn't cut through them.

If I fired a cotton wool ball at your face at 500mph, you would definitely know about it - it would certianly leave a nasty mark.

Do you understand where I am coming from - the arguments saying that a plane could never do this damage are very poor, as it is very likely that they could do that damage. Whether that damage and the resulting fire is what caused the total collapse of the buildings is a different story.

The Pentagon is a different kettle of fish - one that smells pretty fooking nasty IMO. TBH I don't believe it was a plane that hit it on that day, the damage is really nowhere near consistent with an impact, and the assertion that the plane 'vapourised' is laughable.

Still no-one has tried to explain the point of them demolising WTC 7?
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is only one way to resolve this , gather a fund of say 50bn , and rebuild the WTC say in the middle of the Mongolian desert and fly a plane into it.

And watch if / how it collaspes.

rules around this are :

Any agents of western powers found within 200 miles = guilty verdict before this experiment is tested..

This could be funded by a huge betting fund with the I believe the US government's version of events vs the I don't believe the US government's events...

With 2bn wealthy people on the planet (I mean comparatively) each of those people would only need to provide £50 for this project to be viable!,

I will of course 'volunteer' to be cheif treasurer of this project and I will ensure the fund is well managed and not embezzeled. Wink


This is a bit like China saying they will go to the moon in 2020, it would be mighty funny if they got there and couldn'd find the remains of the apollo missions, but it would be even more amusing in 2030 when somebody else goes to the moon and can't find either the US or China landers.
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

This could go on indefinantly which is not something i am prepared to do as it will not make a difference.The steal grid that made up the outer protection of the towers was designed to be like a mosquito netting, the plane would have been like a pencil puncturing the netting leaving the surrounding structure intact..the buildings were
designed to take multiply impacts from jet liners.
https://www.truveo.com/WTC-Towers-Designed-to-Withstand-Impact-of-Loaded/id/36349228

Take a 1KG weight and a 5KG weight..throw them at a wall with the same speed and force..the 5KG weight will do more damaged than the 1KG weight.. the wings of the plane weighed less than the plane..they would have met more resistance upon entering the building and needed a lot more force to enter..the plane had a lot behind it to back it up..the wings never. we see on the videos that the plane entered as a hole..with zero resistance..as though it was traveling through air alone.
Steal this thick would have ripped the wings off the plane..they would have fallen to the ground.


lets stop for a moment and say yea..the wings entered along with the plane.. ok did the wing that had just entered the building then go along to cut the other side of the building open???? was it strong enough to do so?

https://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2001-09/637093.jpg

we see entry hole..exit hole and hole at the side of the building..so the wing not only cut through a heavily steal reinforced concrete building..it also cut its way back out???

as for the nose of the plane coming directly out of the other side of the tower
https://www.911pk-gruppen.no/Nose-Out.jpg-for-web.jpg
after working its way through this
https://www.wtc7.net/store/books/wakingup/samples/docs/p2/site1099c.jpg
well thats impossible.. we seen it on tv.. but it is impossible..we seen some other impossible things on tv as well

https://www.antichristconspiracy.com/pictur2.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGebpA97UM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7rRXJ87oPo&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpxfS6Tnxlw&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRR3HehURVg&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaQoD72v4-s&feature=related

Random news story. "The plane was taking off from a nearby runway when it clipped the tops of several trees and overturned. Officials said one of the plane's wings was ripped off in the crash."

in this day and age its possible to create anything and put it on tv make what you will of it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
Still no-one has tried to explain the point of them demolising WTC 7?


I remember watching a documentary on it and as far as I remember WTC7 housed a lot of Government and FBI offices and was most likely the location of any planning to do with 9/11 so was demolished to hide any evidence that may have been left.
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So following your thought processes to their logical conclusion, there is no such thing as the Taliban


Never Ever follow someone else's thought process and believe you can come to there logical conclusion..its not your thought process..you can only come to your own conclusions and in this case the conclusion you have come to is one thats far from logical..yes there is a Taliban..invade any country with a population and you will find resistance..call them what you will..freedom fighters/terrorists or just people looking to save there country.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah we invaded Afganistan so we could build a gas pipe line through it , a taleban guy was even in washington in 1999, but the Afgan government chose a turkish contractor to do this...
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Bush Sr. was in a business meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington on the morning of September 11th with one of Osama Bin Laden's brothers..he must of felt a little akward Laughing

the Bush dynasty has closer links to the bin Ladens than Saddam Hussein did,they have been in business together for more than two decades..i wont go into details..its all documented fact thats easy to find if its of interest...
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mad_man wrote:
George Bush Sr. was in a business meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington on the morning of September 11th with one of Osama Bin Laden's brothers..he must of felt a little akward Laughing


Hold on, I thought he was visiting a school at the time of the attacks Confused I've seen footage of his security advisors coming over and telling him about the attacks, and him looking utterly lost when they tell him the planes have hit the building.

So which is true?

EDIT:

The school is in Florida, a good four to six hour flight from Washington. That must have been a damn early meeting with Binner's bro.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

George bush sr- senior- his farther.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 22 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah.

My bad. Embarassed
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