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PostPosted: 17:25 - 10 Dec 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

tl;dr "Trust me, bro!"
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 10 Dec 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
In the real world:

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Al-Watan newspaper writes in its online edition that the country's new leader Al-Joulani "categorically prohibits interference with women's clothing and making demands related to their appearance, including demands for modesty. We affirm that personal freedom is guaranteed for everyone and that respect for individual rights is the basis for building a civilized nation...and wants good relationships with Israel"

The Taliban promised to respect women’s rights in Afghanistan and look how that turned out. Rolling Eyes

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/womens-rights-in-afghanistan-a-timeline?onepage
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 13 Dec 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Val wrote:
In the real world:

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Al-Watan newspaper writes in its online edition that the country's new leader Al-Joulani "categorically prohibits interference with women's clothing and making demands related to their appearance, including demands for modesty. We affirm that personal freedom is guaranteed for everyone and that respect for individual rights is the basis for building a civilized nation...and wants good relationships with Israel"

The Taliban promised to respect women’s rights in Afghanistan and look how that turned out. Rolling Eyes

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/womens-rights-in-afghanistan-a-timeline?onepage


But Val said.....

and we all know Val is always right.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 15 Dec 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But Val said.....

and we all know Val is always right.


i wonder if hes still busy celebrating Cumala winning the US elections Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 15 Dec 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamala had well over a billion dollars to get absolutely nowhere, what a waste. I wonder if they'll ever put a number on how much it cost to put Biden in the big chair in 2020 Thinking

At least with the money sent to Ukraine you get to see some tangible results like Russia tanks being blown up.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 12 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukraine being hung out to dry by Trump, leaving Putin emboldened in Europe while the USA runs off to oppose China.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 13 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ukraine being hung out to dry by Trump, leaving Putin emboldened in Europe while the USA runs off to oppose China.


It was always going to happen. The longer it went on the less people who have fcuk all interest dislike seeing their tax pounds/dollars going to a country half a world away.

How much money has UK given to Ukraine so far?
We are proud to be a leading partner in providing vital support to Ukraine. In total, the UK has committed £12.8 billion for Ukraine: £7.8 billion in military support. £5 billion in non-military support
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12 billion. Will we get that and whatever else we have donated back? We were paying lend lease back to the US from ww2 for the past 75 years but I bet we haven't made any criteria for giving huge amounts of money/weapons to Ukraine.
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PostPosted: 02:05 - 13 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither has Israel...
https://www.cfr.org/sites/default/files/image/2024/01/israel_aid_og.png

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I think if Trump's elected they'll (end Ukraine and) fully back Israel

'Trump's meeting with Jordan's King Abdullah on Tuesday, where he doubled down on his plan for the US to take over Gaza and permanently move the two million Palestinians living there to Jordan, Egypt and other locations.'

It's why I haven't been buying the money narrative, as the trillion dollar Iraq war was apparently fiscally fine, and now there's money for Gaza on Sea.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 15 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Ukraine being hung out to dry by Trump, leaving Putin emboldened in Europe while the USA runs off to oppose China.


True fro Ukraine, but I have to ask what do you mean oppose China? Musk is lterally getting a lot of money from China Communist Party.

Elon Musk is ‘pro-China’. DOGE is targeting group working to counter CCP influence

Elon Musk, who has significant business ties to China, has directed operatives working for his Department of Government Efficiency to cut funding to the National Endowment for Democracy, a federally funded nonprofit group that does extensive work countering Chinese influence.

NED has long funded groups working to combat the Chinese Communist Party by exposing its human rights abuses and supporting anti-communist efforts in China. For this reason, conservative China hawks have long supported the organization, with U.N. Ambassador Nominee Elise Stefanik, formerly one of China’s fiercest critics in the House, at one point sitting on its board of directors. Republicans and Democrats have long held a consensus that NED is an important tool for advancing American interests.

Tesla has also received over half a billion dollars in loans from Chinese state-owned banks and a tax break from the CCP

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/investigations/3321413/elon-musk-pro-china-doge-national-endowment-democracy-counter-ccp-influence/
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 16 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM 'ready' to put troops on ground in Ukraine to protect peace

If he does that he wont last 5 minutes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gxgxl3grgo
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 16 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
what do you mean oppose China? Musk is lterally getting a lot of money from China Communist Party.

Elon Musk is ‘pro-China’. DOGE is targeting group working to counter CCP influence

Just a story made up by those who dislike Musk and his cost-cutting agenda. He’s targetting inefficiency.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 17 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
PM 'ready' to put troops on ground in Ukraine to protect peace

If he does that he wont last 5 minutes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gxgxl3grgo

He will be trying to recreate the glory that was Tony Blair's involvement in Iraq to root out all those weapons of mass destruction. They love a good war.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 17 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
PM 'ready' to put troops on ground in Ukraine to protect peace

If he does that he wont last 5 minutes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gxgxl3grgo

He will be trying to recreate the glory that was Tony Blair's involvement in Iraq to root out all those weapons of mass destruction. They love a good war.


You know what comes next don't you. We are sorry but taxes will have to rise to fund Ukraine. We will put them up a bit higher than we need for that so we can give it to other poor hard done by ̶c̶h̶i̶l̶d̶ ̶a̶b̶u̶s̶e̶r̶s̶ UK lovers coming here on little boats. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 17 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, it's all bluster......

Sir Keir Starmer says "there must be a US backstop" for a lasting peace agreement in Ukraine,

Don't blame me, I wanted to send the troops in but Donald said no.

Where's Lammy to call him a Nazi.
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PostPosted: 02:42 - 18 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
You know what comes next don't you. We are sorry but taxes will have to rise to fund Ukraine. We will put them up a bit higher than we need for that so we can give it to other poor hard done by ̶c̶h̶i̶l̶d̶ ̶a̶b̶u̶s̶e̶r̶s̶ UK lovers coming here on little boats. Rolling Eyes

More than a bit, it's £15 million a day housing them, not to mention financially rewarding Gambian rapists.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 19 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

The day the irony and the free speech both died Laughing

JD Vance's free speech speech has free speech comments disabled Laughing Laughing Laughing

https://i.imgur.com/hjYNPSE.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/qBYQIoL.jpg



Trump spewing Russian lies and propaganda word for word is not dumb liаr, but a traitor like Kim Philby, won't be able to save his master Putler.

Seriously no one can be so dumb to literally give everything to his foes and even more. The only explanation is Trump must be Russian asset for many years.

Trump will be remembered as traitor and a loser, the president who destroyed America as a world leader.

Trump been a KGB agent since 1987, it's clear to everyone now.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 19 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The day the irony and the free speech both died Laughing

Please, define what you consider free speech.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 19 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Val wrote:
The day the irony and the free speech both died Laughing

Please, define what you consider free speech.


What he decides is free speech. Laughing

This is delicious from Vals worst nightmare point of view.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 19 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Val wrote:
The day the irony and the free speech both died Laughing

Please, define what you consider free speech.


Not banning people to speak.

Not banning people to comment on your speech.

Like EU commission is doing in their videos:

https://i.imgur.com/qjZ5pAR.png

Note the guy in the comments complaining Kaja Kallas is against free speech whilst exercising his free speech. Is that you Rhyno? Laughing

Free speech was when Macron had the summit two days ago anyone could and a lot of people have commented live at the youtube streaming from french government.

Not banning journalists that you don't like to attend press conferences.

Not banning children books you have banned without any reason.

What is your definition? Enlighten me Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 19 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will all change for the better when the AFD win wont it Val.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 19 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It will all change for the better when the AFD win wont it Val.


In your wet dreams only.

The next Bundeskanzler von Deutschland will be Joachim-Friedrich Martin Josef Merz who is the Leader of the Christian Democratic Union.

President Muskolini aka Space Karen will be very disappointed Laughing

AFD is and will be a party that can do nothing in Germany.

And #swasticars are down 74% in Germany now Laughing

Whatever money Muskolini can steal from the US tax payers that is it.

He is Führious now Laughing Laughing Laughing
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It will all change for the better when the AFD win wont it Val.

They won't cos of boomers Wink

AfD support is from 'younger' (under 60) voters, whilst boomers are still voting CDU.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 21 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump has called Zelenskyy dictator and blamed Ukraine for the war and said his support is 4%

He is russian agent there is no other explanation here.

Meanwhile Daily Mail poll shows Zelenskyy rating is 52% getting higher than Trump %47 in the US Laughing

https://i.imgur.com/FpBSxfp.jpg

Also Trump complained that Zelenskyy was sleeping and refused to meet Scot Bessent Secretatry of the Treasury.

Quote:
"Scott Bessent actually went there and was treated rather rudely, because essentially, they told him 'no'," Trump told reporters on Air Force One.

"And Zelensky was sleeping and unavailable to meet him.


I will let you be the judge of this here are photos from the meeting:

https://i.imgur.com/94NHPDo.png
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 23 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Trump grand strategy to oppose China...


Also this opposing China strawman is seriously desperate attempt to justify the idiot Trump. Clutching at straws mate

I have listen to John Bolton and he was clear: Trump has no strategies. He is just a moron with massive ego.

Not to mention how the US will oppose China by giving the example of been weak and betraying Taiwan. It is exactly the opposite message to China. To occupy Taiwan and then make peace with Trump because its unrealistic to get back Taiwan yes Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 23 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

youve got 4 years of trump Val. do you think your heart can take it?
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