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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 17 Aug 2023    Post subject: Re: A2 Reply with quote

Aidan.S wrote:
Yo guys been awhile since ive said anything lol, Hope everyones great.

Found this 2003 ZX6R, the guy who has it bought it A2 restricted from factory, he still has the plates/restrictor kit to put on.

However the issue im having is newer A2 bikes must have a max HP of 47. The ZX6R i found has a ma HP of 60-65 with the restrictor kit.

Its confusing as on paper its A2 it can be installed with the kit to restrict it so everything is legal. But would this be acceptable if i were to insure the bike?

A2 max HP is 47 but the ZX6R has min HP of 60 with restrictor kit but the Bike came factory A2 on papers its A2 everything abt the bike is A2 would i still be legally Able to insure it and drive it on the road?


Ask DVLA. In writing.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 17 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks will do that, just found out its mapped so ECU needs to be factory reset which means that the HP will be down to 47 as well with the restrictor kit i think.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 18 Aug 2023    Post subject: Re: A2 Reply with quote

Aidan.S wrote:
A2 max HP is 47 but the ZX6R has min HP of 60 with restrictor kit but the Bike came factory A2 on papers its A2 everything abt the bike is A2 would i still be legally Able to insure it and drive it on the road?

You can't ride a 60bhp bike with an A2 license.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 18 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Ye i swear this A2 rule is fkin retarted.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 18 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aidan.S wrote:
Thanks, Ye i swear this A2 rule is fkin retarted.


Erm....
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 18 Aug 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will probably Opt for an mt07 then
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 04 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

After a year and a half, finally got my bike in October of 2024, 2014 MT07 A2 restricted, love that bike. Got my provisional license. hopefully as of April Ill be on my full A2 License.


For those wondering those bikes on the wall are Airdrop Bikes.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 09 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like a fun bike. the ones ive looked at do seem to rust quite badly in places though.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 21 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ye its a great bike, its smaller then the newer models however the seat is way more comfortable. I got lucky with the rust, the previous owners kept this bike in good shape, just small scracthes but not huge dents, rust or anything. I did however polish the exaust line to make it shiny again. that took 3 hours with one of my m8s haha Shocked

It rides great, ive got my MOD 2 next week so hopefully i pass, shouldnt be an issue as i used too ride EnduroCross and motocross haha
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 23 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck on passing your test. im sure the bike will be a lot more fun on full power.

couple of videos about the bikes suspension that might interest you-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s91qcAXWKpI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-uiiksWsOs&t=0s
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 25 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, and one of those videos ive seen already have been looking into getting my forks and suspension done, but i got tyres to buy hhaha going to go for the bridgestone S23's

Ill be sure to watch the second video of the fork issue though.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 05 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update, Passed my MOD 2, getting my license card tomorrow. Can finally drive without that L (was already driving without it). Also found out my bike is unrestricted. So I did my exam with an A bike bassically haha.

Should receive new S23 Birdgestone tyres. also found out my tyres were due to be changed on the 08/22, a god 2 1/2 years ago yikerss
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 09 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

well done. stay safe and have fun.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 04 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

So recently ive been going to parking lots to practice knee dragging, mainly to find confidence in leaning those angles safely and body position. Does anyone know any good sizes and measurements for circle sizes or figure 8 etc.

Many thanks.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 04 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

watch a few of this chaps videos, he has some good advice-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qJXO4CZ9S0&t=8s
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 04 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot man Smile I appreciate it
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 31 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey everyone, so been riding a lot and practicing. Trying to experiment with my tyre pressure. Currently im running 2.2 bars front and 2.4 in rear recommended is 2.3and 2.5.
Ik someone who runs 1.9/1.7 bars front and 2.0/2.2 bars in the rear. He told me its for the best amount of grip for when hes riding "hard" on the road so when he takes corners he can get more bike lean angle etc.
I was wondering if anyone knows whats the best tyre pressure for day to day riding but also good for in twisties and having good grip around corners etc..

Note: I ride a 2014 MT07
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 31 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

manufacturers have a pretty good idea what they are talking about when they recommend tyre pressures.
try experimenting with a few psi either side of recommended pressures and see how you like it.
pressure is checked when the tyre is cold, before the bike is ridden.
does the MT not have its own forum somewhere where you could ask owners for advice? i would have thought a bike that popular would?
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 31 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ye, ill try experimenting a bit more. The other guy who runs way below recommended, used to race for a team back in a different country, so I would think he knows what hes doing.

As for the other MT forums ive never checked. I should do that tho, never thought about that lmao

thanks for the advice always appreciated : )
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 31 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aidan.S wrote:
Currently im running 31.9 psi front and 34.8 psi in rear recommended is 33.4 and 36.3
Ik someone who runs 27.6/24.7 psi front and 29.0/31.9 psi in the rear. He told me its for the best amount of grip for when hes riding "hard" on the road so when he takes corners he can get more bike lean angle etc.

Fixed that into PSI. Wink

For day to day riding, going with what the manufacturer says is a good place to start.

About 35psi when hot is what you're aiming for so the harder someone is riding, the lower their tyre pressures need to be when cold.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 31 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aidan.S wrote:
. He told me its for the best amount of grip for when hes riding "hard" on the road so when he takes corners he can get more bike lean angle etc. Note: I ride a 2014 MT07


Well I can say for absolute certainty he's talking utter bollocks. The lean angle is governed by the profile of the tyre, not the pressure. The pressure will govern how much suspension action is added to the vertical movement of the suspension and how much the tyre will deform under acceleration and braking.

Some tyres have stiffer sidewalls than others and can be run at lower pressures, and if you're running at a trackday you need to lower the pressures, but I can honestly say temperatures don't change that much on the road. Maybe in the wet, but there are other issues with wet weather riding that would mask such a change.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 01 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input guys, i run 31 psi front rec is 33, and 34 psi in the rear recommended is 36. ive noticed it grips around corners slightly better so ill stick to that.
I run the new bridgestone S23's on the bike so its great.

I plaan on going to a track but for now I have not yet hit the track so ill stick to recommended/ what i currently run.

The above psi that i run is the pressure with cold tyres not hot.

The guy talking bullocks also runs the Michelin road 6's so when he told me he rode so low i was very suprised myself, such low tyre pressure for a all season tyre....
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PostPosted: 07:56 - 02 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aidan.S wrote:


The guy talking bullocks also runs the Michelin road 6's so when he told me he rode so low i was very suprised myself, such low tyre pressure for a all season tyre....


That's SPECTACULARLY dumb. Here's why: Road 6's are known to have very soft sidewalls. They are also set up so the 'sipes' (the cuts in the tyre that allow water to escape) change shape during the wear period of the tyre. The sipes open and close a little as the tyre rotates and the pressure on the ground increases and decreases on a specific spot on the tyre, and this helps to pass the water away. If you run lower pressures, this deformation process will change, and may take it outside of the usual range that Michelin design it for. It's not going to make things better.

If you run lower tyre pressures and the bike genuinely feels better to you, fine. Keep in mind it may be entirely psychological though and may also indicate that your suspension setup is way off. Also don't try to justify it by saying there is a reason for it, it's trial and error, pure and simple.

My Street Triple used to feel better when I ran lower pressures, but that's because the suspension setup was totally out of range for my weight. It was an indicator that something was wrong, not a secret new way that 'Big Tyre' won't tell you about. The recommended pressures are recommended pressures for a reason.

Admittedly the bike manufacturer recommended pressures are for the OEM tyre, and the tyre manufacturers recommended pressures may not be for you and your bike but it will still be pretty close.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 02 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a couple of racers and yes, they run significantly lower tyre pressures. All about grip for them, larger contact patch.

Be aware though, you'll wear them out more quickly and you can have an adverse affect on the handling, it'll start feeling squirmy in corners and you're at increased risk of a tank-slapper.

What I'd say is be very wary of going more than a few PSI softer than standard, especially as a novice rider. The guys I'm talking about are very experienced racers and are prepared to accept a degree of squirriness in corners that would make me pucker. I see them coming out of corners on the power sometimes and the rear-end is all over the shop, bars shaking and general unpleasantness BUT lots of grip.

With the tyres you have and the bike you have them on, I can pretty much garauntee any handling issues are not down to lack of grip from the tyres. Get the suspension well dialled in (doesn't matter how grippy your tyres are if they're not on the road) and concentrate on looking where you want to go. You'll run out of talent/cojones before those tyres run out of grip.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 02 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I know a couple of racers and yes, they run significantly lower tyre pressures. All about grip for them, larger contact patch.


I think it far more likely that they run lower pressures because they ride harder and are able to keep heat in the tyres more consistently Certainly that's how it works on trackdays. It may also be because they never take pillions too... but that's a different thing. I guess you know about gas expansion and so on, and so the hot pressures they run are probably the same as the 'warm' temperatures run by someone who can't keep heat in the tyres in the same way.

My Conti race tyres have to be run at 28psi rear cold, when the manual says 42psi rear, and that's because the 'hot' pressures are much closer to the road pressures. Also road pressures have to cover a wide range of rider weights, riding with a pillion etc.
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