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[Nobby the Bastard]

Agreed.

But there's where wade v roe facilitated it. It put limits on what the rights on the individual where the right of the potential child were.

Up to the point where its just a collection of cells it said automity. For the nest 3 months only where the potential child is disabled or non-viable or the mother is at risk or.when rape is involved and after that only where either was at risk of dying.

If any of my children had been disabled they would have been aborted. They would have been mourned exactly the same as the miscarriage we suffered.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

When I was younger there was a child I potentially would have had was aborted (my choice as well but she had the decision) (many years pre Mrs bastard) it ruined the relationship because neither of us were ready for it (6 weeks in) and the.fact we were terminating a life hurt.

We took it out on each other. It hurt. It was still the right choice. Anyone who says it's an easy choice cause they fucked up is talking bollocks or has no emotions.
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[Easy-X]

[mentalboy]

[M.C]

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

Just watched this video and it's fucking harrowing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tQZhEisaE

Dr. Anthony Levatino (Obstetrics and gynaecology specialist) testifying at the House Committee on the Judiciary.
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[Easy-X]

Yeah, I got about a minute and a half into that

Time and rage would be better spent educating ppl not to get into a bad situation to start with: Tinder is as poisonous to sexual health as Social Media is to mental health

Oh, but I can hear it now: "what about rape, you sick c*nt?!" Yes, that thing that represents less than 1% of abortions. Because of the edge case everything is permissible - exercising individual morality being the highest sin in modern society it seems
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[mentalboy]

[stinkwheel]

Someone suggested on the news the other day that they should hold a referrendum on the subject in each state.

There are many pro choice people who would never vote Deomcrat for other reasons and the abortion subject isn't important enough to them to change their minds.

Although maybe the idea of one man, one vote would be a little too democratic for most Americans? It would be funny watching American politicians try to explain why holding a referrendum on the subject was a bad idea while at the same time trying not to say it's undemocratic or appear to be suggesting the people are too stupid to make that decision.
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[Easy-X]

It highlights the failure of the two party system in the US. The Democrats have claimed the pro-abortion side and therefore the Republicans get the pro-life line by default. Biden's meant to be a Catholic and yet it all goes out the window for political capital

Referendums sound good, I think I'm right in saying Americans can be quite keen on them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiatives_and_referendums_in_the_United_States

Who mentioned the idea on the news?
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[Ste]

[Weisse Schlange]

Regardless of any other aspect of this discussion, Biden is a fuckin weirdo.
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[Easy-X]

Whereas in this country there's a big push for ppl in prison to vote
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[Nobby the Bastard]

The uk has constantly refused to implement that echr ruling.
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[chickenstrip]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Churchill would be spinning in his grave.

After all, he suggested it and it was uk solicitors and civil servants that wrote the European convention on human rights.
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[arry]

[arry]

[chickenstrip]

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[Nobby the Bastard]

A basic tenant of the law in the uk is that you have the right to be represented in court by people who will defend your rights.

Barristers are currently striking because they bearly make minimum wage when they are on the prosecution side.

Human rights barristers.are just doing theor job according to the law and their responsibility to represent their clients to the best of their ability.

Are you suggesting we should remove this basic tenant of the law and morality of this country?
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[arry]

[chickenstrip]

I bet the human rights lawyers aren't on strike
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[arry]

Sorry, Nobby, that was a little mean of me.

I don't think CS is suggesting that at all. He is suggesting that the ECHR is just.....well..... not very good at making difficult decisions.

It's hard to argue when the ECHR takes note of a child grooming gang ring-leader, a man who got raped and impregnated a 13 year old girl in a raaaacis hate crime, standing up in court (via an interpreter, cos totally doesn't speak English) and saying that he cannot possibly be deported because he needs to stay here to be a role model to his son.

It's comedic somehow, but it shouldn't be