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| Bhud wrote: | | Easy-X wrote: |
My father-in-law has a 1989 CBR1000F sitting in his back garden right now |
You are a rational actor. For most though, by the time they realise they need a [insert great bike here] they formerly thought was crap, there will be Youtube videos all about it and what's now available for £1K and is hard to sell on Ebay will cost about £10K. |
Face it Bhud, 80s bikes aren't going to be around forever anyway. A lot will have already rotted away, what with their steel frames and the like, and you can't preserve everything forever. This is why I often say it would at least be nice to have a good museum that preserved one of each of the models we all grew up with for everyone one to gaze at through the ol' rose tints. I'd love to have another go on some of them, but in reality, own one again? Nah, I can let it pass.
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Way back I bought a so called eco-diesel and at the time it meant bowling in and out of the Congestion Charge zone for free 'cos I was such a good boy, according to the government and TFL. A few years later no, diesel was the bad man - any diesel - ULEZ came in and I was double-fucked and now have to pay both charges  Yesterday: model citizen, Today: "how dare you?!"
When my wife bought a car I recommended a Euro 6 diesel as that's okay at the moment for the ULEZ but I could easily see that going out of the window come 2030 and probably all other ICE cars as well. Will bikes be overlooked or will we be tarred with the same brush?
Probably the most crucial factor will be the Deliveroo scooter bois. I live in suburbia and technically outside London but there's plenty of them whizzing about. In town they're like flies round shit. They won't be Thanos snapped away like they did with black cabs* and none of the riders have money to invest in EVs.
Of course it depends on who is mayor by then. Kunt Khan has already made noises that he'd love to see no private vehicles in London. None. And whatever TFL does will be a template for other cities.
Vintage may be an escape hatch, one I doubt the Deliveroo crowd will be able to utilise 
*TBF the road map for moving to zero emissions was extensive but still caused ructions.
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the Yamaha Vmax still appeals to me.
no doubt i would have killed myself back in the day, had i been able to afford one 
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A lot of my mates in Edinburgh run home camper van conversions. They have hit on the fact that if you convert one that's registered as a minibus rather than a van, it is exempt from the congestion charge. Don't know how Londons charging system compares.
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| chickenstrip wrote: | you can't preserve everything forever. This is why I often say it would at least be nice to have a good museum that preserved one of each of the models we all grew up with for everyone one to gaze at through the ol' rose tints. I'd love to have another go on some of them, but in reality, own one again? Nah, I can let it pass. |
The museum idea is very good, but in the world of 2022, it's just going to be someone's collection they will pump and dump. Unfortunately, the refined, tried and tested old marketing and sales spiel is one hangover from the 80s that shows absolutely no sign of corrosion - only the receivers' common sense showing obvious rust. Beaulieu is a good museum, and the David Silver collection is still going. However, both seem to belong to that Radio 3 edification world rather than the 1980s Science Museum world... Just my opinion. I'd like to preserve and restore every single 80s bike. But you're right - it's not going to happen. It's not a good sign that the yuppies from back then who are now collectionistas are moving onto the middle class machines rather than sticking to the Bimotas, Ducatis, Aprilias, Cagivas, etc. Ordinary people used to tour Europe rough and ready, on the bikes that so-and-so Youtuber are now pumping as their Paris-Dakar (asset) collection, etc. It's a bit nonsensical. Once you've got Testarossa, 911T and Countach, you should be satisfied with that and not lie and pretend that a Peugeot 504 is what you always lusted over , just because you're in the fortunate position of being influential. You were supposed to be happy with a country pile or millionaire's mansion, and then quit. But they didn't, did they? Information and influence will kill the project bikes hobby. |
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The museum idea is very good, but in the world of 2022, it's just going to be someone's collection they will pump and dump. Unfortunately, the refined, tried and tested old marketing and sales spiel is one hangover from the 80s that shows absolutely no sign of corrosion - only the receivers' common sense showing obvious rust. Beaulieu is a good museum, and the David Silver collection is still going. However, both seem to belong to that Radio 3 edification world rather than the 1980s Science Museum world... Just my opinion. I'd like to preserve and restore every single 80s bike. But you're right - it's not going to happen. It's not a good sign that the yuppies from back then who are now collectionistas are moving onto the middle class machines rather than sticking to the Bimotas, Ducatis, Aprilias, Cagivas, etc. Ordinary people used to tour Europe rough and ready, on the bikes that so-and-so Youtuber are now pumping as their Paris-Dakar (asset) collection, etc. It's a bit nonsensical. Once you've got Testarossa, 911T and Countach, you should be satisfied with that and not lie and pretend that a Peugeot 504 is what you always lusted over , just because you're in the fortunate position of being influential. You were supposed to be happy with a country pile or millionaire's mansion, and then quit. But they didn't, did they? Information and influence will kill the project bikes hobby. |
There again, I have a mate who is currently actively looking for a Morris Marina...
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| stinkwheel wrote: | | Bhud wrote: |
The museum idea is very good, but in the world of 2022, it's just going to be someone's collection they will pump and dump. Unfortunately, the refined, tried and tested old marketing and sales spiel is one hangover from the 80s that shows absolutely no sign of corrosion - only the receivers' common sense showing obvious rust. Beaulieu is a good museum, and the David Silver collection is still going. However, both seem to belong to that Radio 3 edification world rather than the 1980s Science Museum world... Just my opinion. I'd like to preserve and restore every single 80s bike. But you're right - it's not going to happen. It's not a good sign that the yuppies from back then who are now collectionistas are moving onto the middle class machines rather than sticking to the Bimotas, Ducatis, Aprilias, Cagivas, etc. Ordinary people used to tour Europe rough and ready, on the bikes that so-and-so Youtuber are now pumping as their Paris-Dakar (asset) collection, etc. It's a bit nonsensical. Once you've got Testarossa, 911T and Countach, you should be satisfied with that and not lie and pretend that a Peugeot 504 is what you always lusted over , just because you're in the fortunate position of being influential. You were supposed to be happy with a country pile or millionaire's mansion, and then quit. But they didn't, did they? Information and influence will kill the project bikes hobby. |
There again, I have a mate who is currently actively looking for a Morris Marina... |
Best of luck to them, the one my mum had (and hated) in the mid 80's even by then had more plastic padding in the bodywork than it did steel.
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| Bhud wrote: | It's not a good sign that the yuppies from back then who are now collectionistas are moving onto the middle class machines rather than sticking to the Bimotas, Ducatis, Aprilias, Cagivas, etc. Ordinary people used to tour Europe rough and ready, on the bikes that so-and-so Youtuber are now pumping as their Paris-Dakar (asset) collection, etc. It's a bit nonsensical. Once you've got Testarossa, 911T and Countach, you should be satisfied with that and not lie and pretend that a Peugeot 504 is what you always lusted over , just because you're in the fortunate position of being influential. You were supposed to be happy with a country pile or millionaire's mansion, and then quit. But they didn't, did they? Information and influence will kill the project bikes hobby. |
In all honesty, I'm just not all that bothered about it. If people want to butcher the remaining ones, and rip other idiots off with their Frankenstein bikes, that's their business.
I got to own and ride many of the best of them in their day, and that's something you can't replace or replicate 
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| WD Forte wrote: | | Easy-X wrote: |
But if you like shaft-drives how about the CX500?  |
I was a fan of the CX for practical and economical reasons. |
I wouldn't necessarily call them economical.
Had mine for 40k miles and I most of the time get an average of 45.
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