Bad Driving

[Walloper]

https://www.roadpeace.org/articles/trafilaw.html

A long winded doc for a long winded issue.
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"Countless enquiries, studies, polls and case histories have made it evident that the law in respect of road death and injury is not only inappropriate, but also breaches several Human Rights' articles, and that a law change is imperative. "

"20 mph speed limit
A 20 mph well enforced speed limit in urban areas would do more to protect pedestrians and cyclists than any other measure. Regardless of fault, vulnerable road users would stand a chance of ending up in a cast instead of a coffin if impact speeds were reduced to a 'survivable speed'."

For every fact that is spewed up from t'net there can be something to clear it up.

Everyone should use the information out there to form their opinion.

Because someone has some kind of 'informed' opinion on bcf he can be called prick, wank, dick, idiot, stupid, thick and cetera.


Enjoy.
Regards,

walloper
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[Rookie]

No time to read propagated bullcrap. There are just as many, if not more, studies which show the exact opposite of what you're trying to say.

[Walloper]

[Rookie]

Exunctly. Which is what makes it such a great platform for debate. But I still maintain that the speed and speed camera campaign isn't driven by a desire for better road safety.

[Walloper]

[Kickstart]

[mchaggis]

On appearances, a lot of other places emphasise that the roads are for car use rather than pedestrians. There are plenty of people on foot who seem willing to test out the idea that they have priority on the roads over cars. Just because it's a pelican crossing, it doesn't mean you have the right to cross without having a green man

Car frontal design will do a lot to protect pedestrians - that is something already well under way. Mind you, if they stopped splattering speed cameras and road signs all over the place when there are more important things to be looking at (like children trying to cross the road from behind cars), then there might not be so many hit.
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[NSR Mick]

Roads are for cars, bikes, etc.....

Footpaths are for pedestrians, if they stayed there more of them would avoid getting run over.
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[Walloper]

[NSR Mick]

Walloper, I think you are taking this road safety issue to heart a bit too much.

You are pretty much talking to a brick wall imo.

I may or may not have been caught by a camera van on the M74 a couple of weeks back in the car and I know for fact I was doing 99mph (I have a GPS reciver mounted on the dash), was this dangerous?

It was daylight with good visibility on a dry road that was perfectly straight with light traffic.

i'd say not. I was exceeding the posted speed limit yes.
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[Walloper]

Not to heart but you must deal with the contradiction.

Re M74. I saw you in the mirror. I was in front of you all the way..
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[NSR Mick]

you must have been a way in front I didnt see you.
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[bazza]

[Kickstart]

[Walloper]

[Walloper]

[Kickstart]

[Walloper]

You're splitting hairs on a bald man Keith.

I'm a fool for being committed to safety.
I hate reading in here about bikers getting swatted. It isn't cool.
Going on about road safety wont do any harm.
The original post was just some information about road safety.
He-Haw to do with Scameras, but there is some mention of them.
The core of the article deals with more relevant matters.
It is just another side of the argument against control.
How long would society last without control?
Ours is not nearly perfect, but it works for most people.

Most people do not argue against speed cameras (Not that again )
Most probably don't think of them that much. (Circa 60m)
Those caught by them or who drive in such a manner that they may be caught by 'our' cyber deterrents will argue against them. For sure. Human nature.

Driving a vehicle without due care is very anti-social behaviour.
Driving a vehicle constantly looking for cameras is very stupid.
Do we drive constantly looking for unmarked police cars?
It is a lame, lame excuse to say, 'speed cameras distract me'.

Drive your car, bike, through town safely and break the law where it really doesn't matter as much, if you must.
You can not, at present, drive through a 30mph zone at a speed much above 33.
Solution:
Do not do it. Do not get involved in whether 30, 31, 36, 38 etc. is safe or not. The law says it is 30.
You can't defend 34 easily.
Keep it simple. Aim for 28-29 you should NEVER get a ticket.
Unless you're dizzy from looking for cameras.

Society agrees that 30-70mph are safe speeds on our roads where relevant.
I have never read/heard it in any party political broadcast, "and we will abolish speed limits along with taxes when we're in power."

Those laws may never change.
Road safety rules are set to include the most liable vehicles too. Not just marvels of modern electrickery.

Your current bestest car may stop faster than my 1964 Ford Anglia. But the law is written to allow me fair access to the Queen's highways provided that my ride complies with legislation set for that vehicle.

'We were here 1st' is meaningless?
'I'll drive how the hell I like' is as clueless.

Spend more time on your bike and save money by following the rules.
Spend time in jail, out of pocket, hospital or dead by breaking them.
Be carefull your mis-behaviour doesn't involve an innocent and you revoke their legal and moral rights to be safe.

Ride safe and have a pleasant evening.

wally walloper
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[Kickstart]

[Syx]

[bazza]

[Walloper]

[Walloper]

I give up.

If we can not behave in a civilised manner and continue to use all the 'old' excuses then we all deserve the label of Dirty Bikers.

It is the image lots of people have of motorcyclists.
I now see where it stems from.

Are they wrong?

"I want to ride my bike however I like and fcuk anyone else coz its proving what an individual I am."

Oh yeh?


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