Sidestand Engine Kill

[Scooby]

Alright guys,

Just wondered if any of you have found a solution to the sidestand engine auto kill. Basically meaning when you put the sidestand down it kills the endine, and when the bike is on the stand you can't start it. It really pisses me off because with it being a 2 choke (yes 2 choke, you'll understand if you followed my mates RS50 ) you need to let it warm up so it gives me 3 options......sit on the bike for 10 mins letting it warm up.......buy a rear paddock stand.......or 3.....get the thing to stop auto killing the engine!!!

Plz help guys, I need to know how to stop this happening.....

Cheers
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[Viper]

Have you tried putting it into neutral??

My bike quite happily sits on my side stand and warms up.
I thinks there is a problem somewhere?!?! ...or i am just not understanding you correctly?!?!?

[minesweeper]

you can warm it up by reving it in netrual or just ride it cold gently, the feature is meant to stop you driving off with it down trying to take a turn and ending up cartwheeling

[Scooby]

I know you can rev it in neutral, but that's not my point. I wanna be able to start the bike up, leave it to warm up while I go and get my leathers on, then go and jump on it.

It says in the manual there is a sidestand cut out, but what I am saying is, how do I remove it so this doesn't happen.
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[minesweeper]

mate, you dont understand, you turn the bike on leave it in neutral with the sidestand down with the choke on if it needs it, that will warm up the bike, now you go get in your leathers and come back to a warmed up machine... leaving it ticking over in 1st with no sidestand while you got put the leathers on would be funny come back to a bike on its side about 2 meters infront of where you left it

matt

[Scooby]

Right so when my stand is down I can't start the bike AS CIT SAYS IN THE MANUAL, when you put the stand down if the engine is running it cuts out AS IT SAYS IN THE MANUAL, so come on the mr know it all how do you get the bike to keep ticking over on the stand.....
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[TiN]

Err...the sidestand feature is actually a safety feature...you're supposed to make that it works, not disable it!

[Mole]

Scoob,

Have you got it right mate?

The side stand engine kill is there to prevent you activating the stand when the bike is in gear!

Ie: With the bike in neutral and the neutral light on (not just in neutral, cos sometimes the light wont come on if you are just on the edge) the bike should start with the stand down.

With the engine running the bike will stop if you are still in gear! If you aint and you are in neutral with the neutral light on, it will let put the stand down!

Mole
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[G]

You should be able to leave it wariming up in neautral... with the choke on it shouldn't die.

If you really want to stop the auto-kill there should be a switch/cable going to the frame end of the stand. (Sorry can't be bothered to go downstirs and check exactly where) You just need to disconnect/cut this and it should disable it.

[minesweeper]

sorry how long have you owned abike your cracking me up


LEAVE IT IN NEUTRAL! the sidestand wont cut the engine if the bikes in neutral, it only cuts out if your in gear

go out side try it now mate

matt

[Scooby]

No in my manual it says with the sidestand down you cannot start the bike. It has to be up to be able to start it. This is all in neutral by the way. If I start the bike with the stand up (whilst in neutral yet again, obviously) then put the stand down the engine cuts out. This is exactly what it says in the manual, so I dunno why mines different.
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[minesweeper]

very very strange, the bike should run with the stand down in neutral fine, give us the details of your bike mate

[Milo]

Oh, man. This guy's funny!
when it's not in gear (neautal-clever ) and the bike's sitting there on it's stand the bike will start.
when it's in gear and sitting there on it's stand it will not start.
when not running with that stand up but in gear it will only start if you pull the clutch in.
how about you go read that precious manual of yours again? then again, it's probably one of the many bits in the manual that have been VERY badly translated!
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[minesweeper]

ok test this

put the bike in neutral on the sidestand, shown with a green light, try to start it, it should work fine.

now try putting up the sidestand keeping the bike in neutral at all times, then put the sidestand down again without changing gear be very careful with this, it should stay on if not somethings wrong.

matt

[Scooby]

Its a 2001 Y reg UK bike.

Ok I am not totally stupid you know I don't try and start the bike when it's in gear you inbread (milo). Ok listen one more time......bike in neutral, stand down, bike won't start. Bike in neutral, stand up, bike starts.

Don't come back with your lame comments about how I don't know how to start a bike, this is not what I am saying, I am asking why the bike is doing this. =
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[minesweeper]

ok your saying milo is surrounded by bread inbred is the correct term mate.

if its 2001 y model same as mine it should stay on with the stand down in neutral, if it doesnt something is wrong mate

matt

[Scooby]

Ok cheers mate, I'll have to go have a close look at it.

P.s. Ok I'll change my 'inbread' comment, to saying he is a muppet, which I know damn right it spelt right
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[Viper]

Please stop. This is getting too funny!!
I'm the library, people think i'm laughing to myself!!!

[Milo]

lol
if you've had the bike under 3 months then the chances are you can take it back to your dealer (if that's where you got it) and get them to sort it out. otherwise there's a problem. if the neutral light shows then there's not a problem with the sensor and it should be fine. if it doesn't then you know there's a problem

[G]

Does your neutral light work?.. There's probably a broken connection so that the 'kill' circuit can't tell if the bike's in neutral or not.

If it's a 2001 model it should be covered by the warranty.

[minesweeper]

trying to work out what could be wrong, check that the neutral light stays on all the time when you put the stand down even slightly clicking out could cut the engine, also try just having the bike sitting in neutral with the sidestand down and attempt to start it with choke on

if both of them dont work then im not sure what it could be sorry.

matt

[Scooby]

Neutral light is fine. Just one question, I bought the bike from a dealer who had bought it damaged off the previous keeper. Does the warranty automatically shift to me??? I have no warranty documents???
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[minesweeper]

If he sold it to you as fully working and didnt tell you about the fault, he lawfully has to fix it, what warrenty documents do you have? the original owners or the ones from the dealer?

matt

[Milo]

i think the standard warranty for all UK honda bikes is 2 years unlimited mileage. take it to a honda dealer, they won't worry about how you got it cos they'll get paid by honda in the end