German doctor to pay Child support!

[froggeh]

And you thought the UK had some daft things going on!
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6155200.stm

[Paivi]

Can't see anything wrong with that. If the doctor makes a mistake resulting in an unwanted and unaffordable pregnancy, s/he or the trust employing him/her, should be expected to compensate for the considerable expense of bringing up a child, especially if it leads to the (in this case, single) mother having to give up her job/career.
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[TheShaggyDA]

So they've never heard of abortion?






Been a while since this was ranted about, so I thought I'd kick it off.
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[Ste]

[Paivi]

In some countries abortions are very difficult to get. Also, some women can't bear to do that, or have religious objections.

[froggeh]

It is incredibly easy to get a newborn adopted if they didnt want it and were anti-abortion.

The doctor performed the op in good faith. This is utterly ridiculous. What will happen is women will not be able to get the procedure for fear of reprisals.

[m99dws]

[Paivi]

The whole point here is that it obviously wasn't inserted correctly. Medical negligence. Should doctors now pull this particular method may not be a bad thing if they don't know how to insert it properly in the first place. As the manufacturer of the implant wouldn't be happy with decreased sales, they'd make sure to train the health care professionals better.

What choices you give to this woman: abortion and/or giving up her baby for adoption if she can't look after it without this financial support.

For whatever reason, she didn't get an abortion and maybe, after the baby was born, she found that she couldn't give him/her up. I think it's only fair that the negligent doctor, or the health authority employing him/her, should help her to bring up this baby.

The fact that the doctor pays child support doesn't necessarily make the child feel that s/he is an 'unwanted mistake'. Mistake, yes, but obviously not an unwanted one, as the mother chose to keep him/her. I know three 'unwanted mistake' children, all of whom know they were very much not planned, and in one case, almost terminated, and none of them harbour any bad feelings towards the parents.

[zaknafien]

Simple answer is to refuse to give women any contraceptive help in the future.
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[m99dws]

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[strawberry]

If the doctor in question did act negligently that's one thing (having not read the case/evidence I wouldn't feel I could comment either way) and an action for negligence could be the answer. However, the idea that if a contraceptive fails someone else must be held liable is utter tosh. Not even abstinence is 100% safe; various methods of contraception have much talked about effectiveness rates etc.

It's fairly simple, if you agree to the kind of behaviours that can result in pregnancy don't go bleating to other people that your contraception didn't work and make them take the blame. It happens. Deal with it. And yes, if the child wasn't wanted then the options available to the woman are abortion or adoption; a fact she would (I imagine and hope given her educational level) have been aware of before she got pregnant in the first place.

Ill-thought out legal actions are likely to result in doctors practising defensive medicine (look at the obscenely high caesarean rates in USA births as an example), a 'progression' in the medical field we could well do without.

*edit for shoddy spelling/grammar moment*
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[TheShaggyDA]

Maybe I should sue my driving instructor for all the times I got done speeding - he obviously didn't do a good job. Never mind the fact it was over 20 years ago and he's dead, it's still his fault.
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[dainesefreak]

We were told that my wife couldn't have children, we now have a 2 and a half year old. Should I sue the doctors or love the child we have?

[McJamweasel]

[dainesefreak]

Secret child love is not a good phrase to use on the internet in this day and age.

It's not like I didn't have fun in the process either.

[extreme3d]

There have been numerous cases now where doctors, surgeons etc have been sued/prosecuted for errors, mistakes, maybe even negligence. BUT it really must not happen unless it truly is found to be criminal.

Already the various medical journals are filled with articles about what might happen it this trend continues... and it will simply be the doctor/surgeon holding his hands up before the patient and saying 'I won't touch this case it's to risky, sorry' and walking away. Indeed this has already started happening in the states where a surgeon was unable to save someone in A&E and was found guilty of man-slaughter

Their job is difficult enough without the threat of actually being sued/prosecuted for mistakes. They can and do happen - they are human to. They are however the only ones who can do the job so if they were to start being selective... what then?

[nc30 chick]

I also cant see how it 'went missing', you have a follow up check up 3 months after insertion to check the placement and you can see and feel it under your skin aswell. I think she should take some responsibility and realise that even the implant isnt 100% protection.

[Black Knight]

Bloody women!
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[gavin]

what a crock of shit. no contraceptive is 100% effective, and no-one can predict with 100% certianty the behavior of a foreign object in a human body, six months down the line.

if you want a 100% guarantee that you dont get pregnant, dont fuck!!

if you dont want it now, give it up for adoption........
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