question from a newbie XD

[jackw72]

Hey all,

New to the forums and to bikes.

I havent riden a bike ever but intend to do my cbt around March.

Is it worth getting a bike before i do my CBT to practice the basics i.e gear switching, clutch control etcetera?

Im thinking of getting a Honda NSR 125 as it is de-restrictable after ive completed my CBT, is this a smarter move than buying a CG or CBR 125?

from what ive read from these forums there is no change to them if you de-restrict them correct???

Any help is thoroughly appreciated

Jack

[Pops_D6]

Firstly welcome!

Whether its worth getting a bike depends on you. I had mine before my cbt, practiced gear changes etc on it but to be honest I don't think the cbt would have been a problem if I hadn't. Best bit about having it before is that as soon as you've done the cbt you can get striaght out and ride it!

My NSR I had was restricted but still went pretty well. imo they look better than cbrs as well! So no, not correct! Yes there is a change to them when de-restricted, from what I can rememeber it was quite noticeable as well. My mate took it round the block just after de-restricting it and wheelied it up the road!

CG is the one people go for simple because they are reliable, easy to work on, cheap to run...and there's no fairin gto damage if you drop it!
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[Stiffler]

Getting a bike before your CBT is totally pointless. You won't be allowed on the road so how are you going to practice anything? The CBT is designed to take complete novices to a basic ability, so doing all that practice before hand will just leave you bored waiting for everyone else to grasp the basics.

Tbh derestricting your bike isn't a smart move after your CBT at all... Your CBT limits your bike entitlement to a bike of a certain horsepower, and so if you were to destrict the bike you would then be illegal. You also need to be able to prove the bike is restricted before you begin the test. If (like many other people on the forum) you have no issues with breaking the law when it comes to restriction then maybe this is the best option for you.

The CG and CBR's are both slow 125's and since your talking about derestricting the 2 stroke I doubt they'll interest you. You'll probably get bored very quickly.
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[ncrn]

I can really recommend the NSR125R, mine is brilliant, but being a 2 stroke it can eat pay cheques if something goes wrong (ie seizures)

restricted, the best I ever got out of my nsr was 85mph after a very long straight wrapped around the bike as much as I could.

I'm going to be de-restricing mine now I've built up some experience, I wouldn't go straight to an un-restricted version, get some experience first.

I'd only buy the bike now if you intend to buy one that will need some repairs doing too it, but only do that if you have the time and effort to get it fixed up for march.

Clutch control/gears etc you will pick up in a couple of hours, the basics are easy, its getting good that takes practice.
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https://www.nsr125.co.uk - NSR Owners forum.

[jackw72]

[ncrn]

I think your getting confused between CBT and A2 lisence.

CBT is core-basic-training, meaning you can ride a motorcycle of up to 14.6bhp and 125cc, for 2 years, on L plates.

A2 lisence is a series of lessons, with your theory test, hazard perception test, then practical exam. If you pass all those you can then ride a motorbike of up to 33bhp, for 2 years, after that you can ride anything you want.

If you do your cbt it will be illegal to de-restrict the bike, however, proving you did would be very difficult, and I've never heard of anyone getting caught by the police for this.

Basically my advice would be do your cbt, ride around restricted for a while, get good, then de restrict the bike if you feel confident, and I would recommend taking your test also.
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Past: 55 Sym Jet, 91 ZZR250, 03 NSR125R. Present: 97 ER-5.
https://www.nsr125.co.uk - NSR Owners forum.

[Stiffler]

Yes as ncr says there is definitely some confusion going on in this thread.

So to set things straight, before you can ride any motorised 2 wheel vehical that has more than 50cc on the road you need to take your CBT - Compulsory Basic Training. This can be done from the age of 16, and at 17 it entitles you to ride a motorbike of no more than 125cc that generates no more 14.6bhp. To ride legally on the road you also need L plates front and back and a helmet that meets saftey tests!

You can then take your A2 that will allow you to ride up to 33bhp bike. But you need your CBT first.
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[jackw72]

well...

ive learnt something

thanks peeps XD