Restricting Large Bikes

[Goose]

ive managed to get on here for an hour, while parents are out cos they have stopped my using it for exams

i did want a 125 at some stage but the more i think about it, the less value it seems to appear

i wanted a UK bike but i cant find any dealers selling them in or near my town which is a pain, i dont want to get stuck with an import

so i was thinking of buying a GPZ500 or a CB500 restricting it to 33 bhp then when my two years is up i will have a real bike capable of a comfortable 120 mph +

this i think will save me money in the long run, is the insurance likely to be quite a sting?

also what do you think of this idea, because anyway i can cut it the RS Mito and NSR UK bikes are all too expensive for what you get, i may be pursuaded to get a DT or KMX but i cant find out how fast they go and how much they should be costing me for a UK one, what do you guys think?

[Milo]

It'll save you money in the long term, but only if you don't crash it! what with being a new rider it's more sensible to start off on a smaller bike. after all, it is your first bike and it will get dropped and scratched up.
I've got the older style GPz550. the new one should do a max of about 110-130, wouldn't have though any more than that. but you do get much creaper running costs if you go for the 4-stroke.

[Keen]

How old are you? If you're young the insurance costs will be rediculous. It's also more sensible to start on a more manageable bike. This is just my theory, but won't a big bike restricted to 33bhp be slower than an NSR/Mito/RS cos they're alot heavier?
I've heard that the DT and KMX are pretty good performance-wise though, apparently the acceleration is quicker cos dirtbikes have lower gearing but the top speed is lower than the sports 125's. If your short the seat hight may be awkward also.

[Milo]

yeha, they're bound to be heavier but with the torque increase going for a bigger bike it's not noticable at all. when i first got mine it felt like a slingshot from the traffic lights!

[G]

When you say expensive I presume you're refering to a fairly new bike, unless you're really worried by the looks you can get a decent enough NSR/other 125 for £1000-£1500. Just make sure it can be derestricted to full power.
As you haven't payed so much it won't be as bad if you stack it and you can reasonably get TPFT insurance... get a big lock on an oldish-looking bike and you can probably get away with TPO insurance.


Some bikes to consider (cheap insurance wise):

Naked 400s (Bandit, CB400, Fazer, SV etc.)
Big trailies/Smaller 2 strokes (If you're tall enough, these offer decent performance with low power)
Susuki Goose (import, DR350 engine (4st single) in cafe racer style chassis, I'm considering getting one of these as a 'winter' bike if I can sort it out and find a decent cheap one)

Most of these bikes are in groups 7-9 so shouldn't be too bad for insurance, you should be able to get them in reasonable condition for under £2000.

You could also consider getting something like a cg125/NS125/cb250/MZ/etc in the £500 -£750 range, keeping it for a year then using the 1 year NCB/year with licence/year older to get cheaper insurance on a bigger bike.

[Doddmaster]

G,
Theres a Goose on eBay at the mo for a decent price, cant remember what exactly though

[G]

oooh.. I'm tempted but my garage is a little full at the moment... 6 bikes (3 mine) + an r6 that my flate mates looking at getting in the next month.
The idea is to sort out my NSR over the summer and try and do something with my KLR.

[Guest]

Hi

You still need to pass your test, and that will be more expensive if you do not have a 125 to practice on.

You can pick up GPZ500s for not much Flat out that do 127mph, and the old one we had would manage 65mpg as long as you cruised below 85mph. The one we picked up recently is not as good on petrol

We paid £825 for this GPZ500

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/gpz500.jpg

All the best

Keith

[Milo]

I've also got a GPz, older style (G reg) for £1500. it does 80mpg's cruising at about 80mph, prob better cos it's a four. It's also great through traffic and U-turns are a breeze, even with passangers, compared to the NSR! It's geared to 130 and is *cough* 65 *cough* 33hp

[Scooby]

hehe Keith...is that your car in the background??? If it is it's good to see you spend money on bikes not cars, lol.
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[Ropehead]

im in the same boat im restricted to 33bhp for 2 years iv got a full power tzr 125, and im looking for a FZR400 or a VFR 400, hopefully a 33bhp kit wont kill the performance,
if u want to know about insurance groups have a look at this site

https://www.vauntage.co.uk/bike_groups.htm

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