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PostPosted: 10:15 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Overtaking coppers Reply with quote

What experiences have you had with overtaking/filtering past the pigs? I was commuting today filtering towards a set of lights, where a copper was waiting for amber. I decided to tuck in behind him, as my left rear indicator is hanging off, and my rear tyre is perhaps a little on the bald side, as well as having an open race can.

So what's the general consensus? Will they generally leave you alone for stuff like that? Eventually I overtook him in a NSL area then when out of sight buggered off down a dual carridgeway Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they are in traffic, and i can get past, i'll go passed.
They can't filter, so you're alright.

I've overtaken cops doing 85mph on the motorway.
I feel that you shouldn't act daft when you see cops, don't hide behind them, or travel in the outside lane trying to let them undertake.
If you act suspiciously they'll probably think you're not legal.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you woulda waited up the outside of their car at the lights on the white line? then done them off the lights?
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't, I think theres a weird technicality with filtering that states you're not supposed to filter right to the front. I always do, but I wouldn't in front of a cop car, just in case.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go past them, Have nothing to fear. I followed a copper on the way home. He was doing about 85mph. If there doing that speed then so can I - Providing im behind of course Cool
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I thought there was a rule about "overtaking" before a pedestrian crossing, maybe they could do me for that, filtering is basically overtaking isn't it!
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even better is chasing an ambulance with it's lights on.....feel a bit like a modern day moses, with a lid on. Cool Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
If they are in traffic, and i can get past, i'll go passed.
They can't filter, so you're alright.



Cops can filter! I see them doing it all the time Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put it this way, if you're on a 50cc buzzer don't even think of trying to filter past a copper on a BMW 1100 police bike!

I did this and 5 mins later he pulled me over in a bus lane, first thing he said, 'I don't mind you using the bus lane'. He then proceeded to tick me off for overtaking past a right turn junction even though it was morning rush-hour and completely gridlocked - no car was going anywhere! He threatened to give me 3 points and a fine so I just did the usual meek 'yes sir, no sir, I'll take it up the arse sir' routine. Seems to work most of the time!

I know I was technically in the wrong, but I'm convinced to this day he only pulled me coz I overtook him on a buzzer and he wasn't impressed... lol. Made me feel better knowing I had a de-restricted 'ped and hadn't done my CBT by then though. When we started off again he used the bus and cycle lane to filter to the front of the traffic and disappeared!

Police cars don't seem to care much though, now I've got a proper bike I'm overtaking them, undertaking them in bus lanes, etc, etc and they've not stopped me yet.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're fine filtering past police cars I do it all the time, just make sure you're going and slow and smooth enough that it doesn't look dangerous and they can't complain. Oh and that rule is, if there are zig-zag white lines by the pedestrian crossing then you can't overtake the vehicle at the front of the queue, so don't let them see you doing that.

Oh and as for ambulances I was following one most of the way to work this morning, I really wanted to overtake as I knew I could make quicker progress, felt wrong to do it so I stayed behind him. Sad
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm always nervous of filtering past police cars too. Especially when I'm constantly doing things like overtaking in the zig zag area at Pedestrian crossing, undertaking or riding in hatched areas seperating lanes... All minor offences but ofences never the less Confused

Louise wrote:
I go past them, Have nothing to fear. I followed a copper on the way home. He was doing about 85mph. If there doing that speed then so can I - Providing im behind of course Cool


During the World cup last Summer I was following a Police Riot Van on the motorway, it was just before one of the England games and the Van was doing 90+ (I recon they were heading back to the station so they could watch the match). There was a pile of traffic all following it, including me, all doing the same speed. But if the van slowed down nobody would pass it.... It was doing my nut in as I wanted to get home for the match too!

To add insult to injury after the van finally pulled off I sped off, knocking on ban speeds, and around the next bend in the road there was a pursuit car sat in wait! I dumped a pile of speed and cruised passed at about 75. My heart had sunk as I watched in my mirror for the flashing blues, but they never came! Surprised

This was all in a car... How I'm gonna hold onto my license when on a powerful bike?
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you drive in a manner seen as dangerous or without due care for other road users you could get a pull.
If you have a defective vehicle you could get the same.
Filter safely and police will not bother.
Drive like a nuisance and they will have you.
If you annoy them sufficiently, they could still visit you at home and tell your mum and dad.
No law about how far up the Kyber you can filter.
Probably safer to get right to the front anyway. I always do. You get off the mark faster than any car. Just make a judgement on the traffic movement, light sequence/timing. Practice carefully.
Ped crossings, do not overtake the car at/nearest the line.
Generally, a crossing is not the bestest place to pass a vehicle. Treat it as a junction. What are we not meant to do at junctions boys and girls???
If you gub someone YOU will, most likely, get most of the blame.

Anyway, I only go out on my bike somedays just sos I can filter. Cool
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
Oh and as for ambulances I was following one most of the way to work this morning, I really wanted to overtake as I knew I could make quicker progress, felt wrong to do it so I stayed behind him. Sad


Call it superstition.
I never pass a Mush Bucket with Bloos 'n' Toos going.
It might be for me. Sad Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was coming back from Donington back in 2005 after MotoGP I was desperate for a wee on the M5 so was pacing back at quite a speed when I looked in my mirrors and there was a police car with blue flashers on. I shit myself, but they just went past me.

Moral is; you can do whatever the fuck you want in front of a Police Car sometimes.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was once filtering behind a police bike on the North Circular, - 3 lanes of solid traffic & slow moving traffic and he was doing the obligatory 15mph....he saw me, pulled into the outside lane then waved me past, and off I went, after giving him a wave & a small toot on the horn.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, police in general will not pay particular attention to bikes filtering.

You shouldn't go over solid white lines or overtake the lead vehicle on approach to a crossing. However you can do these 99% of the time and police really wont care as long as you are safe.

Never go to the right of a keep left arrow.

Police do not pull you over unless you come to their attention, this will be by your own doing!
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm warey of overtaking police on single lane roads.

Filtering past them is fine, do that all the time.

I have been overtaken by police bikes whilst cruising at ~90mph on the motorway though.

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PostPosted: 13:45 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

headlamp wrote:
I was once filtering behind a police bike on the North Circular, - 3 lanes of solid traffic & slow moving traffic and he was doing the obligatory 15mph....he saw me, pulled into the outside lane then waved me past, and off I went, after giving him a wave & a small toot on the horn.


Ya big Sook ye! Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:

They can't filter, so you're alright.


Since when?
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
killa wrote:

They can't filter, so you're alright.


Since when?

I think he was referring to this particular situation, where said pigs were in a car.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Even better is chasing an ambulance with it's lights on.....feel a bit like a modern day moses, with a lid on. Cool Thumbs Up


I had an ambulance with lights going pull over for me a while ago Neutral.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Even better is chasing an ambulance with it's lights on.....feel a bit like a modern day moses, with a lid on. Cool Thumbs Up


I wouldn't recommend that - even on blues there's always some idiot that pulls out in front without looking.
When the guy in the ambulance floors the brakes you find out how short your stopping distance is. Shocked

Oh, and then there are the idiots who pull out immediately behind the emergency vehicle to try to follow it. If you're already on his bumper they'll have a new mascot.

I've come close to taking out a few people that way when driving with a Police escort - they never expect there to be something right up the police car's backside, and you won't have the benefit of lights and sirens (ok, I'm guessing that bit, you might have Wink )

Back on topic... I filter past police all the time, as long as it doesn't involve crossing unbroken lines and stop lines or entering bus lanes.
Generally best to keep to the left of keep left signs too.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

I had an ambulance with lights going pull over for me a while ago Neutral.


An illustration of how G rides on the road.

OK, so I want to see you ride *faster* than that on the track! Wink
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stiffler wrote:

How I'm gonna hold onto my license when on a powerful bike?


... Current Bike - Yamaha YBR125



Shouldn't be a problem for a while then

Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
headlamp wrote:
I was once filtering behind a police bike on the North Circular, - 3 lanes of solid traffic & slow moving traffic and he was doing the obligatory 15mph....he saw me, pulled into the outside lane then waved me past, and off I went, after giving him a wave & a small toot on the horn.


Ya big Sook ye! Laughing

I had to look that up in a Scottish vernacular Dictionary!! Laughing Laughing - I nodded as well!! That makes an even bigger Sook!
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